Wednesday, August 6, 2008

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Today's topics:

* What do China and the United States share? - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/3e78db6392452b5c?hl=en
* A parents worst nightmare... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/deffcbd609dc2386?hl=en
* Alternative Energy - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/debaf19b83d573c4?hl=en
* GM loses big-time - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/eb168e727edbe84d?hl=en
* Al Gore has a houseboat? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/9f44ff893871b689?hl=en
* New Trailerboat - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/4f1fb19038cda592?hl=en
* Well, I see the place........... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/0d20f8e1e6b72a54?hl=en

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TOPIC: What do China and the United States share?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/3e78db6392452b5c?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 9:51 pm
From: "D.Duck"


You are sick comparing China and the US.

Maybe there's a position over there for you in union organization.

You wouldn't be happy in Utopia.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 9:53 pm
From: hk


D.Duck wrote:
> You are sick comparing China and the US.
>
> Maybe there's a position over there for you in union organization.
>
> You wouldn't be happy in Utopia.
>
>


In China, underaged children work in food processing plants, operating
dangerous machinery and laboring under oppressive conditions.

Just like in the United States.

Smoke that, Mr. Utopian.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 9:57 pm
From: "D.Duck"

"hk" <payer33859@mypacks.net> wrote in message
news:v9OdnThvVqPXswTVnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> D.Duck wrote:
>> You are sick comparing China and the US.
>>
>> Maybe there's a position over there for you in union organization.
>>
>> You wouldn't be happy in Utopia.
>
>
> In China, underaged children work in food processing plants, operating
> dangerous machinery and laboring under oppressive conditions.
>
> Just like in the United States.
>
> Smoke that, Mr. Utopian.

My comments stand.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 10:05 pm
From: hk


D.Duck wrote:
> "hk" <payer33859@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:v9OdnThvVqPXswTVnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> D.Duck wrote:
>>> You are sick comparing China and the US.
>>>
>>> Maybe there's a position over there for you in union organization.
>>>
>>> You wouldn't be happy in Utopia.
>>
>> In China, underaged children work in food processing plants, operating
>> dangerous machinery and laboring under oppressive conditions.
>>
>> Just like in the United States.
>>
>> Smoke that, Mr. Utopian.
>
> My comments stand.
>
>


So do mine, and mine are based upon fact.

There's no shortage of child labor abuse cases in the United States,
and, of course, many US corporations own or are shadow owners of
manufacturing plants overseas that employ child laborers and exploit
them. It really helps the bottom line when your workers earn less than a
dollar a day, and each item of clothing they make sells for $90, hey?

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:41 pm
From: "Calif Bill"

"hk" <payer33859@mypacks.net> wrote in message
news:v9OdnThvVqPXswTVnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> D.Duck wrote:
>> You are sick comparing China and the US.
>>
>> Maybe there's a position over there for you in union organization.
>>
>> You wouldn't be happy in Utopia.
>
>
> In China, underaged children work in food processing plants, operating
> dangerous machinery and laboring under oppressive conditions.
>
> Just like in the United States.
>
> Smoke that, Mr. Utopian.

Yup. As a 10 year old, I got to work in a machine shop with engine Lathes.
Shapers and saws and drills. By 12 I could turn out a beautiful cannon.
Still going and all my fingers. And can still weld and run a lathe.



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TOPIC: A parents worst nightmare...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/deffcbd609dc2386?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 10:25 pm
From: "Calif Bill"

"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:lokh94d8hf7isd5mm6ofdqnhe4qadaa12e@4ax.com...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LChQuiE568

A kicker in the first round? Let me gamble with the kid.



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TOPIC: Alternative Energy
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/debaf19b83d573c4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 10:32 pm
From: "Calif Bill"

"hk" <payer33859@mypacks.net> wrote in message
news:FNWdnXYH8_VJPgXVnZ2dnUVZ_q7inZ2d@comcast.com...
> Vic Smith wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:28:26 -0500, thunder@TAKEOUTgti.net wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:48:51 -0400, D.Duck wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Now if we could only get some drilling going in the Gulf or on the
>>>> mainland. What's with this Ballken field in Montana/ND I've been
>>>> reading
>>>> about?
>>> Do you mean the Bakken Formation that was discovered in 1951? Lots of
>>> oil there, but with current technology most of it will stay there.
>>>
>>> We are not going to drill our way out of this. In this country, oil
>>> production peaked in the early '70s. We are still the third largest oil
>>> producing country, yet we have to import more than 1/2 our oil. Seems
>>> to me, there is a hell of a lot more we can do on the conservation side,
>>> than on the producing side.
>>
>> Here's what puzzles me when I hear talk about "drilling our own oil."
>> Isn't oil price set by the world market?
>> Are "American" oil companies drilling here going to sell only to
>> American consumers?
>> That sounds like nationalization to me.
>> Doesn't seem like drilling more here will affect the world oil supply
>> significantly enough to lower prices as world demand increases.
>> Devil in the details, and I never hear anybody explaining how
>> drilling more here will have real effect in price.
>> Does the gov get so much per barrel on the leases? Etc, etc.
>> The stupidest thing I keep hearing is talk about tapping the strategic
>> reserves. Can't get more absolutely lame than talking about doing
>> that.
>> I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Building nukes as quickly
>> as possible and concentrating on converting most commuter cars to
>> batteries will be the fastest way to knock the edge off oil
>> dependency. NG and oil fired heating can be converted when the
>> electricity costs get there. Lots of work for the HVAC industry, and
>> real good for copper prices.
>> Just need the will to do it. Leadership.
>> Oil fuel will used mostly for boats. Navy and recreational.
>> ep. --Vic
>
>
> The entire McCain "energy plan" was handed to McCain intact by the oil
> industry. It's a plan to make more money for the oil industry.
>
> Last November, McCain said:
>
> ""I will oppose any tax breaks or good deals for the gas and oil industry
> also."
>
> --John McCain at a town hall meeting in Rindge, NH, 11/18/07
>
>
> For American Progress, "The McCain plan would deliver approximately $170
> billion a year in tax cuts to corporations, including some corporations
> that are very large and profitable. Just one of the proposals-cutting the
> corporate rate from 35 percent to 25 percent-would cut taxes for five
> largest U.S. oil companies by $3.8 billion a year." [Center for American
> Progress, 3/27/08]
>
> McCain Voted Against Reducing Dependence On Foreign Oil. In 2005, McCain
> voted against legislation calling on the President to submit a plan to
> reduce foreign petroleum imports by 40 percent. [Senate Roll Call Vote
> #140, 6/16/05]
>
> In 2005, McCain Voted Against a Windfall Profit Tax on Oil Companies At
> Least Twice. McCain voted against a measure that would have provided an
> income tax rebate to Americans by taxing enormous oil company profits
> temporarily on an sale of crude above $40 a barrel. [S 2020, Vote #331,
> 11/17/05; S 2020, Vote # 341, 11/17/05; Houston Chronicle, 11/17/05; Las
> Vegas Review-Journal, 11/18/05; Environment and Energy Daily¸ 11/18/05]
>
> McCain Voted Against Taxing Oil Companies To Provide $100 Rebate To
> Consumers. In 2005, McCain voted against an amendment to impose a
> temporary tax on oil company profits from the sale of crude oil. The funds
> would be used to provide every taxpayer with a $100 non-refundable tax
> credit for 2005 for each person in their household. The amendment failed
> 33-65. [S 2020, Vote #341, 11/17/05]
>
> McCain Voted Against Temporarily Taxing Oil Companies to Finance Tax
> Rebate For Consumers. In 2005, McCain voted against an amendment to would
> impose a temporary 50 percent tax on oil company profits from the sale of
> crude oil. Funds collected from the tax would be used to provide a
> consumer tax credit for petroleum products. The amendment failed 35-64. [S
> 2020, Vote #331, 11/17/05]
> Offshore Drilling
>
> McCain Now: McCain Called For Lifting The Off Shore Drilling Moratorium.
> During a press availability in Arlington Virginia, John McCain called for
> a lifting of the federal moratorium on offshore drilling. McCain said, "I
> think that's a subject of negotiation and discussion. But right now, as
> you know there's a moratorium. And those moratorium, in my view,
> moratoria, have to be lifted. And they have to be lifted so that states
> can make those decisions. I'm not dictating to the states that they drill
> or they engage in oil exploration. I am saying that the moratoria should
> be lifted so they have the opportunity to do so. And by the way, I would
> also like to see perhaps additional incentives if the states, in the form
> of tangible financial rewards if the states decide to lift those
> moratoria." [McCain Press Avail 6/16/07]
>
> * Houston Chronicle: McCain Announced Drilling Stance To "Make Amends
> With Texas Energy Producers." The Houston Chronicle Reported, "Republican
> presidential candidate John McCain, seeking to make amends with Texas
> energy producers who did not support him during the 2008 GOP primary
> season, said Monday he wants to end a federal moratorium on offshore
> drilling and create "additional incentives" for states to approve new
> exploration ventures." [Houston Chronicle, 6/17/08]
>
> McCain Said Coasts "Should Be Open To Exploration and Exploitation." John
> McCain said, "So I do believe that there are places in the world, as I
> said, that we should not drill. But I certainly think there are areas off
> our coasts that should be open to exploration and exploitation. And I hope
> that we can take the first step, by lifting the moratoria in order to do
> so." [McCain Press Avail 6/16/07]
>
> McCain Then: He Opposed Off-Shore Drilling At Least Three Times, and Twice
> Supported Florida Efforts To Prevent Drilling Off Their Coasts.
>
> * McCain Voted Against Off-Shore Drilling. In 2005, McCain voted for
> an amendment that would strike language instructing the Interior
> Department to conduct a comprehensive inventory of Outer Continental Shelf
> oil and natural gas resources. The amendment failed 44-52. [H.R. 6, Vote
> #143, 6/21/2005]
>
> * McCain Voted Against Off-Shore Drilling. In 2003, McCain voted
> against a provision requiring a survey and inventory of possible off-shore
> oil and natural gas deposits by the Secretary of the Interior. He voted
> for an amendment striking the provision. The amendment failed 45-53. [S.
> 14, Vote #221, 6/12/2003]
>
> * McCain Voted for One-Year Moratorium on Oil and Gas Exploration in
> North Aleutian Basin. In 1989, McCain voted for a bill making
> appropriations for the Department of the Interior and related agencies for
> the fiscal year ending September 30, 1990, and for other purposes. The
> bill contained a total of $956.4 million for the Bureau of Land Management
> of which $442.1 million is for management of lands and resources; $535.5
> million for the Fish and Wildlife Service. The bill also imposed a
> one-year moratorium on oil and gas exploration and development in the
> North Aleutian Basin and ensured that the Department of the Interior will
> continue its assessment of damage from the Exxon Valdex oil spill through
> September 30, 1990. The bill also contained $1.5 billion for the
> Department of Energy, which includes $422.1 million for the fossil energy
> research program; $192.1 million for the Naval Petroleum and Oil Shale
> Reserves; $413.3 million for energy conservation. The bill passed 91-6.
> [H.R. 2788, Vote #241, 10/7/1989]
>
> McSame As Bush: Bush Administration Called For End To Off Shore Drilling
> Ban. The New York Times reported, "The Bush administration proposed on
> Monday leasing out millions of acres along the coasts of Alaska and
> Virginia to oil and gas drillers, a move that would end a longstanding ban
> on drilling in those environmentally sensitive areas. ... 'The outer
> continental shelf is a vital source of domestic oil and natural gas for
> America, especially in light of sharply rising energy prices,' said Dirk
> Kempthorne, secretary of the interior." [New York Times, 5/1/07]
> Renewable Energy
>
> McCain Flip Flopped On Ethanol
>
> FLIP: McCain Said Ethanol "Has Absolutely, Under No Circumstances, Any
> Value Whatsoever." According to Roll Call, "John McCain, R-Ariz., called
> ethanol "a product that we have created a market for which has absolutely,
> under no circumstances, any value whatsoever except to corn producers and
> Archer Daniels Midland and other large agribusinesses." [Roll Call,
> 5/2/04]
>
> * FLOP: McCain Said Ethanol "Ought To Be Something That Ought To Be
> Carefully Examined." According to the Des Moines Register, McCain
> "indicate[d] a slight softening of his earlier opposition to the
> corn-based alternative fuel, which he said in the past was too costly to
> produce." McCain "who once described ethanol as 'good for neither the
> environment nor the consumer,' said that rising oil costs make the
> alternative fuel worthy of another look.'" "McCain emphasized ... that his
> opposition to subsidies hasn't changed, and said that economics, not
> politics, explains his revised position. 'I think it ought to be something
> that ought to be carefully examined' and researched, he added." [Des
> Moines Register, 4/13/06, 4/14/06]
>
>
>
>
> The reality is, McCain is as much in the pocket of big oil as Bush.
>
> As soon as McCain announced his (their) energy plan, contributions began
> to roll in from the oil industry.

Evil Exxon. 11 billion in profits. 32 billion paid in taxes. Sounds more
like the taxers are the evil ones.



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TOPIC: GM loses big-time
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/eb168e727edbe84d?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 10:43 pm
From: "Calif Bill"

"Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:JvmdnRk7EZTZFgXVnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> "hk" <payer33859@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:gd-dnYK7sORs5wXVnZ2dnUVZ_t7inZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Larry wrote:
>>> "Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
>>> @registered.motzarella.org:
>>>
>>>> She lacked motivation?
>>>
>>> I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on a
>>> Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda 600
>>> sedan:
>>> http://www.honda600coupe.com/Honda_600_Sedan_at_Route_22_Honda.html
>>> I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
>>> think it was ever on the road!
>>>
>>
>>
>> I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
>> and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well for
>> a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet compared
>> to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda started when
>> I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and sometimes didn't.
>>
>
> My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
> Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
>
> Eisboch
>

My buddy is driving his 305 on Sir Francis Drake Blvd, in Marin County and
loses it. Big time, goes sliding down the road, to come to a stop as it
touches the front bumper of a CHP car. And talks his way out of a ticket.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 10:42 pm
From: "Eisboch"

"DK" <intrceptor@123gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jim wrote:
>>
>> "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:JvmdnRk7EZTZFgXVnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> "hk" <payer33859@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>> news:gd-dnYK7sORs5wXVnZ2dnUVZ_t7inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Larry wrote:
>>>>> "Jim" <jim@boatnet.net> wrote in news:g79lts$k5k$1
>>>>> @registered.motzarella.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> She lacked motivation?
>>>>>
>>>>> I made errors on two of my Hondas. I traded in my 305 Honda Dream on
>>>>> a Triumph 650....I was young. The other mistake was selling my Honda
>>>>> 600 sedan:
>>>>> http://www.honda600coupe.com/Honda_600_Sedan_at_Route_22_Honda.html
>>>>> I bet they want a pretty penny for this perfect specimen....I don't
>>>>> think it was ever on the road!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I got you beat! My *first* motorcycle was... a 250cc Honda Dream. Used
>>>> and just carefully broken in when I bought it, and it served me well
>>>> for a couple of years. Ugly little bike, but...it sure looked sweet
>>>> compared to the BSAs and Triumphs my friends had, because...my Honda
>>>> started when I wanted it to...and their bikes sometimes ran and
>>>> sometimes didn't.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My first was a Honda 305 Superhawk. Drove it all summer and winter in
>>> Illinois, mainly because I couldn't afford a car.
>>>
>>> Eisboch
>>>
>> winter-motorcycle-Illinois? You are a daredevil,aren't you?
>
> Illinois has a variety of weather. Northern IL is very different from S.
> IL.


We lived briefly in Zion, IL. Just a couple of miles from the Wisconsin
border. Interesting little dry town. No booze or beer sold.

Eisboch


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 10:51 pm
From: "Calif Bill"

"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:n9gh94tqbpba4i3eqf368gd0605sse4n6n@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:29:21 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>>news:rvdh941hr680a7da3mlhar0j3q2stbtv2i@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:56:11 -0400, "Eisboch" <nothere@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Don White" <whited@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:4898aad7$0$4042$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to wonder what the ships social committee made off those
>>>>> deals.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ship's Social Committee"?
>>>>
>>>>What the hell is *that*?
>>>>
>>>>You Canadians have a strange Navy.
>>>
>>> Correction - there isn't a Canadian Navy as such.
>>>
>>> It's the Canadian Armed Forces - they are all in one service.
>>
>>You mean they have Jarheads that know how to drive a boat?
>
> Piffle - just like our Navy - bus drivers for the real military.
>
>>Must be smart ones up there.
>
> HEY!!!! :>)

some of us were smarter than Jarheads. We dealt with the taxi service and
did not get a lot of purple hearts in the process. Did miss combat pay
being stateside in an airconditioned electronics shop.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:01 pm
From: "Calif Bill"

"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4tah94pe3dao9uhh2fsh1dadd1vpsle8ke@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:32:39 -0300, "Don White"
> <whited@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:m05h94hb2g0qg1f9jfols904nljvjsidt7@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:50:14 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The only thing it lost was the master cylinder in the hydraulic brakes.
>>>>The hand brake worked good until I saved up enough money to buy a new
>>>>master cylinder on my measily $100 Navy check....
>>>>
>>> Reminds me. In the Med in '64 I signed up for stateside delivery of a
>>> Triumph Spitfire. $500 down, taken right from my Navy payroll.
>>> One of those deals where vendors come aboard.
>>> Back in the states my ma talked me into not going through with the
>>> deal. Lost the $500, about half a years salary.
>>> No biggie. Didn't need much money then. But it does piss me off now
>>> when I think about it. Could have invested that in IBM. Uh huh.
>>> Think I spent the same with another ship vendor the next Med trip for
>>> Encyclopedia Americana delivered to my ma's house, but that was
>>> actually worth it.
>>>
>>> --Vic
>>
>>You have to wonder what the ships social committee made off those deals.
>>
> Social committee? Never heard of that, and never gave any thought
> about the vendors got aboard, or how they were vetted.
> Seemed they were on the up and up, and I bought some nice stuff to
> bring home as gifts for family. German cutlery and Venetian glass is
> what I remember.
> I was a kid and probably waited too long to cancel the deal, and maybe
> didn't read the fine print. Can't remember the details, but never
> considered blaming the Navy. It was my fault, and the experience
> always kept me on my toes in future transactions.
> Only thing I had against the Navy was them pulling a molar of mine
> that was aching in Naples. I'd still have that tooth now if they did
> a root canal. We were in for a few days, but the guy was pull-happy.
> Maybe even penicillin would have fixed it. I still remember the Lt.
> with big forearms straining to pull it out.
> His swabby assistant walked away not wanting to watch and the Lt.
> yelled at him, "Get your ass back here and hold his head!"
> Lots of blood. Fuckers. But hey, that's the Navy.
> Another Lt. at NAS Norfolk did an excellent job saving a dead front
> tooth I had chipped as a kid. Win some, lose some.
>
> --Vic
>

You at least had a bad front tooth. Air Force dentist accidently nailed the
front tooth with a drill. They had the Full Bird Col. come in to do the
root canal.



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TOPIC: Al Gore has a houseboat?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/9f44ff893871b689?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:08 pm
From: gfretwell@aol.com


On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:46:02 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email@swsportsremove.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:24:08 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:54:31 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
>><email@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>>
>>>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/rrrrrr.jpg
>>>
>>>Damn...
>>
>>Why do we think it is his?
>
>Why do we think it isn't?

Before someone posted the link to the article it was just an
uncredited picture.

The B.S one isn't a bad name.
How is a "bio diesel" boat different than any other diesel?
Are those bio jet skis too?


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TOPIC: New Trailerboat
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/4f1fb19038cda592?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:08 pm
From: "Eisboch"

"hk" <payer33859@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a
>few lurkers who are.
>
> This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has
> just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.
>
> http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/hank100/Miscellaneous/newtrailerboat.jpg
>
>
> Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
> and does about 55 mph at WOT.
>
> I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume
> product.
>
> The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
> still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
> the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's
> a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
> Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a
> wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
> That's what is easily visible.
>
> The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.
>
> Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.


I know you like Parkers, which is fine, but to me, this simply looks like a
big, obese and overgrown version of the 25 footer.

The huge Yamaha outboards further reinforce that image. It might look
better if it was set up with twin inboard diesels. Some larger boats, like
a Yellowfin 34 or 36 CC offshore fishing boat look natural with big
outboards and they preserve space for fishing and gear. IMO, the Parker
just doesn't look right with twin monsterous outboards.

Maybe it's just the picture, sitting on the trailer with the tow vehicle
shown in relationship to the boat/engines setup.
It almost looks fake.

Eisboch



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TOPIC: Well, I see the place...........
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/0d20f8e1e6b72a54?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Aug 5 2008 11:39 pm
From: "Calif Bill"

"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:p7hg94pvagkvn59rerh3tjp4oji9gqqnpk@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:57:18 -0700 (PDT), LoogyPicker@gmail.com wrote:
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>>has turned into a political jerk off session once again. Good going
>>Harry.
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> It wasn't Harry's fault - it was mine.
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> Kind of a counter-point to the recent spate of nonsense. :>)

Dam Jarheads.


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