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Today's topics:
* buon viaggio! - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/9ac65014d549c218?hl=en
* Kangaroo Island Wilderness Enviroment - Wildlife Attractions & Tours - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/d0904c1c0fe686d4?hl=en
* ♥♥♥DVDs and Software are 100% brand new, and factory sealed! good quality
and cheap price! ♣♣♣ - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/ef5e3f4a5a60a8f1?hl=en
* Many New Ports in Europe and Caribbean - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/94c5defcd902c0b3?hl=en
* Paying it forward: just back from Caribbean Princess - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/538e0f574ff52330?hl=en
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TOPIC: buon viaggio!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/9ac65014d549c218?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 5:11 pm
From: Marsha
Crabman wrote:
> Marsha, since you've done your research then you know your body burns
> off calories at different orders, and different rates in your body.
> Meaning that sugar, fat, and carbohydrate based caloric values are burn
> off in different orders.
> If you cut way back on pure carbs and sugars, fat calories get burned
> off sooner. Also low carb diets increase your metabolism greatly which
> further enhances the caloric burn rate.(read up on ketosis)
>
> You are correct that if you sit on your ass and do nothing then calories
> don't get burned off very fast, and what you take in gets stored. On the
> other hand if you are even reasonably active and you stop taking in high
> carbohydrate foods, you will burn fat off.(once you go into ketosis)
>
> Alcohol definitely slows you metabolism, but because it contains no
> carbohydrates it is burned from your system more quickly.
>
> You have to burn the calories that you take in, no question, but I can't
> take in more calories drinking than I burn, not and stay conscious that
> is. I weighed my self yesterday and I have lost 30# in 4.5 months. I
> drink PURE no carb alcohol drinks 3-4 days a week and occasionally 4-5 a
> day if there is a party going on. Except for the 1st 2 weeks of the diet
> I changed nothing in my alcohol intake.
>
> I don't contest the calories in versus the calories out, but I do
> contest the math.
>
> Let the dieter beware, do your own research and make up your own mind.
>
> Clay<<<<192 to 162 with 7 to go.
Congratulations on your weight loss. I do not have anything against
low-carb diets, as I follow one myself, but you stated he could have all
the drinks he wanted, which may not be true if he wants a whole bunch of
alcohol. Vodka has 100 calories in 1.5 oz. If I *want* 10 drinks,
that's 1,000 calories. If I've already eaten my normal maintenance
amount of 1500 calories for the day, that adds up to 2500. If I keep
taking in that amount and don't change my exercise patterns, I will gain
weight. Alcohol also burns before fat calories, so if you're trying to
lose fat while drinking too much, it isn't going to work. That's the
only point I'm trying to make.
Marsha/Ohio
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 6:17 pm
From: Crabman
Marsha wrote:
> Crabman wrote:
>> Marsha, since you've done your research then you know your body burns
>> off calories at different orders, and different rates in your body.
>> Meaning that sugar, fat, and carbohydrate based caloric values are
>> burn off in different orders.
>> If you cut way back on pure carbs and sugars, fat calories get burned
>> off sooner. Also low carb diets increase your metabolism greatly which
>> further enhances the caloric burn rate.(read up on ketosis)
>>
>> You are correct that if you sit on your ass and do nothing then
>> calories don't get burned off very fast, and what you take in gets
>> stored. On the other hand if you are even reasonably active and you
>> stop taking in high carbohydrate foods, you will burn fat off.(once
>> you go into ketosis)
>>
>> Alcohol definitely slows you metabolism, but because it contains no
>> carbohydrates it is burned from your system more quickly.
>>
>> You have to burn the calories that you take in, no question, but I
>> can't take in more calories drinking than I burn, not and stay
>> conscious that is. I weighed my self yesterday and I have lost 30# in
>> 4.5 months. I drink PURE no carb alcohol drinks 3-4 days a week and
>> occasionally 4-5 a day if there is a party going on. Except for the
>> 1st 2 weeks of the diet I changed nothing in my alcohol intake.
>>
>> I don't contest the calories in versus the calories out, but I do
>> contest the math.
>>
>> Let the dieter beware, do your own research and make up your own mind.
>>
>> Clay<<<<192 to 162 with 7 to go.
>
> Congratulations on your weight loss. I do not have anything against
> low-carb diets, as I follow one myself, but you stated he could have all
> the drinks he wanted, which may not be true if he wants a whole bunch of
> alcohol. Vodka has 100 calories in 1.5 oz. If I *want* 10 drinks,
> that's 1,000 calories. If I've already eaten my normal maintenance
> amount of 1500 calories for the day, that adds up to 2500. If I keep
> taking in that amount and don't change my exercise patterns, I will gain
> weight. Alcohol also burns before fat calories, so if you're trying to
> lose fat while drinking too much, it isn't going to work. That's the
> only point I'm trying to make.
>
> Marsha/Ohio
>
I understand your point but the calorie formulas you state don't hold
true for low carb dieting. The daily allowance of 1500 calorie numbers
are only accurate if you are on a high carb diet.
But you already know that.
Clay
--
Warning: keyboard may cause involuntary vowel movement - Clay Ferriola
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 6:31 pm
From: Marsha
Crabman wrote:
> Marsha wrote:
>> Congratulations on your weight loss. I do not have anything against
>> low-carb diets, as I follow one myself, but you stated he could have
>> all the drinks he wanted, which may not be true if he wants a whole
>> bunch of alcohol. Vodka has 100 calories in 1.5 oz. If I *want* 10
>> drinks, that's 1,000 calories. If I've already eaten my normal
>> maintenance amount of 1500 calories for the day, that adds up to
>> 2500. If I keep taking in that amount and don't change my exercise
>> patterns, I will gain weight. Alcohol also burns before fat calories,
>> so if you're trying to lose fat while drinking too much, it isn't
>> going to work. That's the only point I'm trying to make.
>>
>> Marsha/Ohio
>>
> I understand your point but the calorie formulas you state don't hold
> true for low carb dieting. The daily allowance of 1500 calorie numbers
> are only accurate if you are on a high carb diet.
>
> But you already know that.
>
> Clay
>
I disagree, but we'll have to agree to disagree :-)
Marsha
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TOPIC: Kangaroo Island Wilderness Enviroment - Wildlife Attractions & Tours
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/d0904c1c0fe686d4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 5:21 pm
From: OCEAN LINK TRAVEL
Wildlife Attractions & Tours
Kangaroo Island is rightly famous for its prolific wildlife, but
finding some of the more reclusive residents might require a little
local knowledge. Guarantee sightings and insights on one of the
Island's many wildlife tours.
http://www.oceanlinktravel.com/kangaroo_island_tourism/Wilderness_Enviroment/Attractions_Tours/
Robert Debono
OceanLinkTravel
http://www.oceanlinktravel.com
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TOPIC: ♥♥♥DVDs and Software are 100% brand new, and factory sealed! good
quality and cheap price! ♣♣♣
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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: Many New Ports in Europe and Caribbean
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/94c5defcd902c0b3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 6:00 pm
From: "John Sisker"
To Whom It May Concern:
We received this press release from SeaDream Yacht Club and thought it may
be of interest to this newsgroup as well.
Happy sailing...
John Sisker - SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY (sm)
(714) 536-3850 or toll-free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency ID: 714.536.3850)
www.shiptoshorecruise.com
SEADREAM YACHT CLUB
2009 SCHEDULES AND ITINERARIES
Many New Ports in Europe and Caribbean
Focus is on Unique and Exclusive Yachting Destinations
SeaDream Yacht Club, well on its way to 100 percent utilization of its 2008
availability in its European summer and Caribbean winter sailings, has
published its 2009 schedules and itineraries for those travelers who wisely
plan ahead.
All details from January through December 2009 for SeaDream's award-winning
mega yacht cruisers SeaDream I and II, may be found on its website---
Commenting on the 2009 sailings, Larry Pimentel, President and CEO of
award-winning SeaDream Yacht Club, stated: "As in previous years 2009 will
find our small, sleek, 50-couple yachts sailing in European waters in the
summer and in the Caribbean in the winter. They will call not only at
vibrant port cities, but at small and exclusive seaside towns and villages
where the big passenger ships can't go.
"Calling at small yachting ports is a specialty of ours," Pimentel said.
In Europe from May through October, SeaDream I and II will sail in the
Mediterranean, the Adriatic Sea, the Aegean Sea, up into Croatia and even
down to Tunisia. Embarkation ports include Barcelona, Seville, Tenerife,
Lisbon, Nice, Monte Carlo, Rome, Venice, Athens and Dubrovnik.
In the Caribbean from January through April, the two SeaDream yachts will
sail in the British Virgin Islands, U.S. Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico's
Virgin Islands, French West Indies, Netherlands Antilles and the Windward
and Leeward Islands. Embarkation and debarkation ports include convenient
and accessible air gateways---San Juan, St. Thomas, Antigua and Barbados.
SeaDream will also call on the ports of Miami, Palm Beach and Key West in
2009.
New ports for 2009 for SeaDream's European sailings are: Formentera (Spain);
Lipari, St. Margherita, Trieste (Italy): Le Lavandou, Antibes, Port Vendres,
Sete, Bandol and Menton (France); Piran (Slovenia); Vis (Croatia); La
Goulette, Tunis (Tunisia); Katakolon, Elafonisos, Aigina, Chania, Crete
(Greece); Mali, Losinj (Croatia) and Ponta Delgada (the Azores).
New ports in 2009 for SeaDream's Caribbean sailings are: Dewey, Culebra
(Puerto Rico's Virgin Islands); Honeymoon Beach and Water Island (U.S.
Virgin Islands); Cooper Island (British Virgin Islands); Coconut Grove,
Nevis and Samana (Dominican Republic).
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TOPIC: Paying it forward: just back from Caribbean Princess
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/538e0f574ff52330?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 6:23 pm
From: sue mullen
Charles wrote:
> In article <657mecF2eg3d2U1@mid.individual.net>, sue mullen
> <kjmullen@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I have always been fascinated with this, but wondered if I would do ok
>> with it. Did your MIL go with you on this or was it just the four of
>> you? I don't remember anyone who went on it, saying they didn't enjoy it.
>
> Anyone can do the America's Cup sailing excursion. In addition to
> sailing assignments like grinders they had for example someone with a
> clipboard assignment handing out assignments, someone handing out water
> and drinks etc. Also with the sailing assignments, those are shared so
> some only do it a few minutes. Anyone can do the excursion.
Thanks Charles, I could hand out water and drinks.lol
sue
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 29 2008 7:01 pm
From: "Gregory C. Read"
"sue mullen" <kjmullen@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6588csF2d09jhU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Anyone can do the America's Cup sailing excursion. In addition to
>> sailing assignments like grinders they had for example someone with a
>> clipboard assignment handing out assignments, someone handing out water
>> and drinks etc. Also with the sailing assignments, those are shared so
>> some only do it a few minutes. Anyone can do the excursion.
>
> Thanks Charles, I could hand out water and drinks.lol
>
> sue
Yes. Any level of physical ability is accommodated. The grinders operate
"winches", while the drink servers are called "wenches".
One word of advice, don't drink too much coffee that morning, as there are
no facilities on the boats. On one of my America's Cup excursions, a young
lady arrived on the boat and ask to use the bathroom. The crew member said
the best he could do was give to her a bucket. There is no "down below" on
these vessels.
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Greg<-----did it three times and loved every one.
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