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TOPIC: Windows Vista SP1 Flunks Out At Penn
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/7bcba543e05f9a86?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 8:32 am
From: HK

D-unit wrote:
> "Canuck57" <dave-no.spam4me@unixhome.net>
>
>
>
>> If all you do is surf, email and light word processing, you could be happy
>> with Vista. But going beyond that, it deteriorates fast.
>>
>
>
> Also great for keeping your recipes!!!
>
> db
>
>
>

If you are a fan of absurd computer tales, this is the place to be.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:38 am
From: John H.

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:20:41 -0500, "D-unit" <cof42@embarqmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Canuck57" <dave-no.spam4me@unixhome.net>
>
>
>
>> If all you do is surf, email and light word processing, you could be happy
>> with Vista. But going beyond that, it deteriorates fast.
>>
>
>
>Also great for keeping your recipes!!!
>
>db
>
>

Why?

My recipes seem to do all right on XP, although I'd imagine that Vista
probably adds a little more flavor.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 9:39 am
From: LoogyPicker@gmail.com

On Mar 24, 11:32 am, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> D-unit wrote:
> > "Canuck57" <dave-no.spam...@unixhome.net>
>
> >> If all you do is surf, email and light word processing, you could be happy
> >> with Vista. But going beyond that, it deteriorates fast.
>
> > Also great for keeping your recipes!!!
>
> > db
>
> If you are a fan of absurd computer tales, this is the place to be.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

What about the information week article about Penn State do you not
believe and think absurd?

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TOPIC: SPAM-sneakerspam
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/601fa9a20e03d980?hl=en
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 8:33 am
From: "Don White"

"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:pbgfu3dm4qaedl2ld10s2uajbq4l4k7jnv@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT),
> justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>.
>
> You know - who is spamming who here?
>
> I don't see the orignal, but for some reason I see yours.
>
> ~~ snerk ~~

hee hee.....
there was an orignal post from a cnsneakers whatever.
We're getting overrun by this spam now.

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 8:35 am
From: HK

Don White wrote:
> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
> news:pbgfu3dm4qaedl2ld10s2uajbq4l4k7jnv@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT),
>> justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> .
>> You know - who is spamming who here?
>>
>> I don't see the orignal, but for some reason I see yours.
>>
>> ~~ snerk ~~
>
> hee hee.....
> there was an orignal post from a cnsneakers whatever.
> We're getting overrun by this spam now.
>
>

I'd dump the chinese sneaker spam guy into the bozo filter bin with
Loogy and the rest of the assholes, but I don't want to provoke an
international event: the sneaker guy would complain.

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 8:47 am
From: justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com

On Mar 24, 11:35 am, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> Don White wrote:
> > "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
> >news:pbgfu3dm4qaedl2ld10s2uajbq4l4k7jnv@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT),
> >> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> .
> >> You know - who is spamming who here?
>
> >> I don't see the orignal, but for some reason I see yours.
>
> >> ~~ snerk ~~
>
> > hee hee.....
> > there was an orignal post from a cnsneakers whatever.
> > We're getting overrun by this spam now.
>
> I'd dump the chinese sneaker spam guy into the bozo filter bin with
> Loogy and the rest of the assholes, but I don't want to provoke an
> international event: the sneaker guy would complain.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I am truly sorry that I do not visit newsgroups in exactly the same
way all you guys do. Uh, no I'm not.. Anyway, if you all just let me
mark them and leave it alone, you will find your own experience much
better, as I will mine. And please don't tell me how to read the
groups, I have my reasons. So for now, if you accept the fact that
once in a while you may see a dot, and I have a better experience all
around, we will all be much better off... Thank you for your
understanding.

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 9:07 am
From: HK

justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 24, 11:35 am, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>> Don White wrote:
>>> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>>> news:pbgfu3dm4qaedl2ld10s2uajbq4l4k7jnv@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT),
>>>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> .
>>>> You know - who is spamming who here?
>>>> I don't see the orignal, but for some reason I see yours.
>>>> ~~ snerk ~~
>>> hee hee.....
>>> there was an orignal post from a cnsneakers whatever.
>>> We're getting overrun by this spam now.
>> I'd dump the chinese sneaker spam guy into the bozo filter bin with
>> Loogy and the rest of the assholes, but I don't want to provoke an
>> international event: the sneaker guy would complain.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I am truly sorry that I do not visit newsgroups in exactly the same
> way all you guys do. Uh, no I'm not.. Anyway, if you all just let me
> mark them and leave it alone, you will find your own experience much
> better, as I will mine. And please don't tell me how to read the
> groups, I have my reasons. So for now, if you accept the fact that
> once in a while you may see a dot, and I have a better experience all
> around, we will all be much better off... Thank you for your
> understanding.

I find the chinese-sneakerspam stuff more interesting and far more
intellectually based than the droolings about NASCAR and guitars that
infest this newsgroup. :>)

== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 9:25 am
From: salty@dog.com

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:47:15 -0700 (PDT),
justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:

>On Mar 24, 11:35 am, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>> Don White wrote:
>> > "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>> >news:pbgfu3dm4qaedl2ld10s2uajbq4l4k7jnv@4ax.com...
>> >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT),
>> >> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >>> .
>> >> You know - who is spamming who here?
>>
>> >> I don't see the orignal, but for some reason I see yours.
>>
>> >> ~~ snerk ~~
>>
>> > hee hee.....
>> > there was an orignal post from a cnsneakers whatever.
>> > We're getting overrun by this spam now.
>>
>> I'd dump the chinese sneaker spam guy into the bozo filter bin with
>> Loogy and the rest of the assholes, but I don't want to provoke an
>> international event: the sneaker guy would complain.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>I am truly sorry that I do not visit newsgroups in exactly the same
>way all you guys do. Uh, no I'm not.. Anyway, if you all just let me
>mark them and leave it alone, you will find your own experience much
>better, as I will mine. And please don't tell me how to read the
>groups, I have my reasons. So for now, if you accept the fact that
>once in a while you may see a dot, and I have a better experience all
>around, we will all be much better off... Thank you for your
>understanding.

Your dots make things worse for the majority of us. I have Tim
killfiled because he keeps perpetuating the stupidity. That means I
don't see his other posts, either, so I end up losing a little there
as well. The annoyance of his dot spamming overrides anything useful
he might post, so he's in the penalty box. I really would rather
continue to see your other posts which are often entertaining to say
the least. If you follow Tim, I'll probaly ditch you at some point
soon, as well. I'll bet I'm not the only one who feels this way.

== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:35 am
From: John H.

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:47:15 -0700 (PDT), justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com
wrote:

Personally, I find your anti-spam posts, even if only a dot, much more
enjoyable than the bullshit from Harry, Don, and JimH.

Help yourself, and don't feel badly about it!
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 9:35 am
From: HK

John H. wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:47:15 -0700 (PDT), justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 24, 11:35 am, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>> Don White wrote:
>>>> "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:pbgfu3dm4qaedl2ld10s2uajbq4l4k7jnv@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT),
>>>>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> .
>>>>> You know - who is spamming who here?
>>>>> I don't see the orignal, but for some reason I see yours.
>>>>> ~~ snerk ~~
>>>> hee hee.....
>>>> there was an orignal post from a cnsneakers whatever.
>>>> We're getting overrun by this spam now.
>>> I'd dump the chinese sneaker spam guy into the bozo filter bin with
>>> Loogy and the rest of the assholes, but I don't want to provoke an
>>> international event: the sneaker guy would complain.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> I am truly sorry that I do not visit newsgroups in exactly the same
>> way all you guys do. Uh, no I'm not.. Anyway, if you all just let me
>> mark them and leave it alone, you will find your own experience much
>> better, as I will mine. And please don't tell me how to read the
>> groups, I have my reasons. So for now, if you accept the fact that
>> once in a while you may see a dot, and I have a better experience all
>> around, we will all be much better off... Thank you for your
>> understanding.
>
> Personally, I find your anti-spam posts, even if only a dot, much more
> enjoyable than the bullshit from Harry, Don, and JimH.
>
> Help yourself, and don't feel badly about it!

There he goes again: Herring's first post of the day, and he's calling
out by name already.

== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:16 am
From: justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com

On Mar 24, 12:07 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>
> > I am truly sorry that I do not visit newsgroups in exactly the same
> > way all you guys do. Uh, no I'm not.. Anyway, if you all just let me
> > mark them and leave it alone, you will find your own experience much
> > better, as I will mine. And please don't tell me how to read the
> > groups, I have my reasons. So for now, if you accept the fact that
> > once in a while you may see a dot, and I have a better experience all
> > around, we will all be much better off... Thank you for your
> > understanding.
>
> I find the chinese-sneakerspam stuff more interesting and far more
> intellectually based than the droolings about NASCAR and guitars that
> infest this newsgroup. :>)

That is exactly why I note it as spam, and then leave the brief
subject line so those who wish to read them can, and free speech is
not stifled. And to saltys post, I just don't see how 3-4 dots a day
can be much more harmful than me trying to hash through 50 word
subject lines that take up my whole screen. Not to mention, a good way
to have your cake and eat it too, would be to use your filters to kick
anything with the word "spam" in the subject line, that way you could
still watch me and the others in our other OT posts... Are you all
going to tell me that you can't kill anything with spam in the subject
line?

really guys, a dot or even three is nothing. It's funny, we are able
to watch the spam rejection we run on our systems, realtime, live. It
is frekin amazing. We filter nearly 300,000 per minute from one of our
servers running about 1500 client mail boxes. That's just what gets
bounced before the other systems we have take over. I have a mailbox
that is over 15 years old, and I only get 10-15 spams a day, most
folks get a lot more than that. Anyway, I just don't see why three or
four dots a day is so much to worry about in this environment, if it
is, someone could explain it to me?

I think a general convention like the one Tim and I try to use is the
best way to go. We do not want to censor free speech, so we make it
easier to kill, at the same time leaving it for those who are
interested. Start the subject line with either "OT-***", or SPAM-****,
then those who wish to filter them out (my mail program does it so I
know your big special readers can too).

Kill file me if you must, you got filters, use em'. Or learn how to
use them correctly, and let me continue to "enlighten" you all with my
simple minded crap...

== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:17 am
From: justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com

On Mar 24, 12:25 pm, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:47:15 -0700 (PDT),
>
>
>
>
>
> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >On Mar 24, 11:35 am, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> >> Don White wrote:
> >> > "Short Wave Sportfishing" <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
> >> >news:pbgfu3dm4qaedl2ld10s2uajbq4l4k7jnv@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT),
> >> >> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> >>> .
> >> >> You know - who is spamming who here?
>
> >> >> I don't see the orignal, but for some reason I see yours.
>
> >> >> ~~ snerk ~~
>
> >> > hee hee.....
> >> > there was an orignal post from a cnsneakers whatever.
> >> > We're getting overrun by this spam now.
>
> >> I'd dump the chinese sneaker spam guy into the bozo filter bin with
> >> Loogy and the rest of the assholes, but I don't want to provoke an
> >> international event: the sneaker guy would complain.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >I am truly sorry that I do not visit newsgroups in exactly the same
> >way all you guys do. Uh, no I'm not.. Anyway, if you all just let me
> >mark them and leave it alone, you will find your own experience much
> >better, as I will mine. And please don't tell me how to read the
> >groups, I have my reasons. So for now, if you accept the fact that
> >once in a while you may see a dot, and I have a better experience all
> >around, we will all be much better off... Thank you for your
> >understanding.
>
> Your dots make things worse for the majority of us. I have Tim
> killfiled because he keeps perpetuating the stupidity. That means I
> don't see his other posts, either, so I end up losing a little there
> as well. The annoyance of his dot spamming overrides anything useful
> he might post, so he's in the penalty box. I really would rather
> continue to see your other posts which are often entertaining to say
> the least. If you follow Tim, I'll probaly ditch you at some point
> soon, as well. I'll bet I'm not the only one who feels this way.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Please explain how three or 4 dots a day, can be more trouble for you
than me having to scroll down pages of 50 word subject lines in my
viewer. Then explain to me why you just don't bite the bullet and
filter anything with the words "spam" in the subject line. Am I
missing something here?

== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:30 am
From: salty@dog.com

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:16:05 -0700 (PDT),
justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:

>On Mar 24, 12:07 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>
>> > I am truly sorry that I do not visit newsgroups in exactly the same
>> > way all you guys do. Uh, no I'm not.. Anyway, if you all just let me
>> > mark them and leave it alone, you will find your own experience much
>> > better, as I will mine. And please don't tell me how to read the
>> > groups, I have my reasons. So for now, if you accept the fact that
>> > once in a while you may see a dot, and I have a better experience all
>> > around, we will all be much better off... Thank you for your
>> > understanding.
>>
>> I find the chinese-sneakerspam stuff more interesting and far more
>> intellectually based than the droolings about NASCAR and guitars that
>> infest this newsgroup. :>)
>
>
>That is exactly why I note it as spam, and then leave the brief
>subject line so those who wish to read them can, and free speech is
>not stifled. And to saltys post, I just don't see how 3-4 dots a day
>can be much more harmful than me trying to hash through 50 word
>subject lines that take up my whole screen. Not to mention, a good way
>to have your cake and eat it too, would be to use your filters to kick
>anything with the word "spam" in the subject line, that way you could
>still watch me and the others in our other OT posts... Are you all
>going to tell me that you can't kill anything with spam in the subject
>line?
>

Exactly right. If you filter on "spam", it will also filter any
subject line where words include that sequence of letters, even if
separated by a space. xxxxs pamxxxx, xxxsp amxxx, etc

Since I use a real newsreader and a real news server, I am able to
filter the spam itself out very easily without fooling around like
some pimply faced nerd who really doesn't have a clue.

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TOPIC: Alaska Ranger Abandoned in Bering Sea
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/c11c2646d286d72f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 8:33 am
From: "Sam Hayes Merritt, III"

LoogyPicker@gmail.com wrote:

>> 4 crew members lost
>> 43 crew members recovered safely
>
> That's a big crew.

Its a factory ship. One of the HD channels had a show on one of
the processors, I want to say it was the Alaska Spirit, but that
could be way wrong.

Its amazing how much they cram onto those boats. Huge nets and
the stuff to pull them in, massive engine and a factory floor
crammed full of belts and slicers and washers and freezers.

sam

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 9:52 am
From: LoogyPicker@gmail.com

On Mar 24, 11:33 am, "Sam Hayes Merritt, III" <s...@themerritts.org>
wrote:
> LoogyPic...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> 4 crew members lost
> >> 43 crew members recovered safely
>
> > That's a big crew.
>
> Its a factory ship. One of the HD channels had a show on one of
> the processors, I want to say it was the Alaska Spirit, but that
> could be way wrong.
>
> Its amazing how much they cram onto those boats. Huge nets and
> the stuff to pull them in, massive engine and a factory floor
> crammed full of belts and slicers and washers and freezers.
>
> sam

Yeah, after I got to thinking, I thought it probably was a processing
ship.

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TOPIC: Wireless and Waterproof Remote PC screen
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/e7f9f979623d1ef0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 9:13 am
From: richardcasady@earthlink.net (Richard Casady)

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:34:04 -0400, Jack Erbes
<jackerbes@roadrunner.com> wrote:

>you'll find that those will intrude on your
>night vision some even at the dimmest settings that lets them be useful.

Has next to nothing to do with night vision. Same thing is true in
broad daylight. When you have a relatively bright light shining
directly into your eyes it is more difficult to see dimmer objects.
Regardless of the actual ammount of light involved. It takes as much
as 45 minutes in close to complete darkness to get full night vision.
Ask any astronomer.

Casady

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TOPIC: Did Harry get a reduced rate at the "Del"?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/3bc31b5b4da5f909?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 9:37 am
From: LoogyPicker@gmail.com

On Mar 24, 9:54 am, camacdonaldiii <camacdonald...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 24, 8:24 am, LoogyPic...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Seeing how they were doing renovation and construction:
>
> >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/23/TR6MUPD3M...
>
> wonder how many were in the audience for his presentation?

He did nothing more than tag along with his wife.

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TOPIC: I Am Rich roo!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/76dded1b79c36c0e?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 9:50 am
From: LoogyPicker@gmail.com

On Mar 23, 11:39 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 10:09 pm, JG2U <cg...@rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim <tschna...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On Mar 23, 1:36 pm, justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Mar 23, 2:31 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > On Mar 23, 1:22 pm, justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > >> > > On Mar 23, 7:36 am, sa...@dog.com wrote:
>
> > >> > > > On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> > > > >On Mar 22, 6:56 pm, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> > >> > > > >> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
>
> > >> > > > >> <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > >> >>"D.Duck" <D...@ald.duck> wrote in message
> > >> > > > >> >>news:SqudnQgS-ovet3janZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> > >> > > > >> >>> Does the speaker have foam suspension? After some years that foam will
> > >> > > > >> >>> break down. I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
> > >> > > > >> >>> good as new.
>
> > >> > > > >> >>Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
> > >> > > > >> >>one from the 80's. Even new ones are hard to the rim.
>
> > >> > > > >> >>But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
> > >> > > > >> >>from it's mounting.
>
> > >> > > > >> >Could be a bad voice coil.
>
> > >> > > > >> That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
> > >> > > > >> notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
> > >> > > > >> voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
> > >> > > > >> caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
> > >> > > > >> coil excursion increases.
>
> > >> > > > >> Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
> > >> > > > >> regardless of whether they buzz or not.
>
> > >> > > > >Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
> > >> > > > >I test without a schematic?
>
> > >> > > > Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.
>
> > >> > > > If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
> > >> > > > into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> > > Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
> > >> > > it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
> > >> > > speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
> > >> > > somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
> > >> > > themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > >> > I suppose anythings possible.....
>
> > >> but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
> > >playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
> > >maybe you're getting used to it........
>
> > Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
>
> > :-)- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Oh yeah...
>
> But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Especially with this:

http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:25 am
From: Tim

LoogyPic...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U <cg...@rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim <tschna...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > >On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> > On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > On Mar 23, 7:36�am, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > > On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> > > > >On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, sa...@dog.com wrote:
> > > >> > > > >> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
> >
> > > >> > > > >> <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
> > > >> > > > >> >On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" <r...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> > > > >> >>"D.Duck" <D...@ald.duck> wrote in message
> > > >> > > > >> >>news:SqudnQgS-ovet3janZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >
> > > >> > > > >> >>> Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
> > > >> > > > >> >>> break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
> > > >> > > > >> >>> good as new.
> >
> > > >> > > > >> >>Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
> > > >> > > > >> >>one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
> >
> > > >> > > > >> >>But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
> > > >> > > > >> >>from it's mounting.
> >
> > > >> > > > >> >Could be a bad voice coil.
> >
> > > >> > > > >> That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
> > > >> > > > >> notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
> > > >> > > > >> voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
> > > >> > > > >> caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
> > > >> > > > >> coil excursion increases.
> >
> > > >> > > > >> Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
> > > >> > > > >> regardless of whether they buzz or not.
> >
> > > >> > > > >Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
> > > >> > > > >I test without a schematic?
> >
> > > >> > > > Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.
> >
> > > >> > > > If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
> > > >> > > > into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > >> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > >> > > Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
> > > >> > > it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
> > > >> > > speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
> > > >> > > somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
> > > >> > > themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > >> > I suppose anythings possible.....
> >
> > > >> but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
> > > >playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
> > > >maybe you're getting used to it........
> >
> > > Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
> >
> > > :-)- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > Oh yeah...
> >
> > But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Especially with this:
>
> http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html

And for ONLY $1399.00!

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:30 am
From: justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com

Yup, my guitar is awesome clean, that's what I am looking for. I want
to hear those pearly gates sing;)

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 9:53 am
From: "John"

"HK" <payer33859@mypacks.net> wrote in message
news:64nomaF2cofejU1@mid.individual.net...
>I wonder.
>
> My two stroke chainsaw fired up on the second pull today. I haven't used
> it for about a year, and there was still gasoline/oil mix in its tank.

my experience - I bought a house that had an inground tank and hose to fill
the boat, the gas had not been used or filled for at least 8 years. I
burned it in my truck until the tank was empty, it ran fine, but I would
just mix in half tank of fresh gas. If your gas is a two stroke mix, there
is more of a tendancy for the oil to separate and depending on the oil, it
may try to plug your fuel filter. I used to fly ultralights, and would
never trust my life to stale two stroke mix - but an outboard, chain saw
etc - go for it!

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 9:56 am
From: "John"

LOL I do support and had customer complaining that when he upgraded code on our equipment some of his windows 98 quit working....
"jamesgangnc" <jamesgangnc@gmail.com> wrote in message news:13ua291ssjf479f@corp.supernews.com...
MS has about some version of it's os on about 90% of all the personal computers. That is hundreds of millions of installations. There will always be people that have some combination of hardward and other software that ms did not anticipate and will cause the operation system to do something wrong.

At the same time lots of organizations will delay implementing a new ms operating system. It generally has a lot more to do with their technical staff being familiar with the new software or their in house applications not being ready for the new os than problems. Though some will complain about the problems in the new os as well.

That is not a new phenomenon. It has been happening since windows 3.1. As every version has matured the problems have declined. Simply because of the sheer volume of installations problems get more press that the other os'. For everyone with a problem there are 10s of thousands that have no problems at all. Vista is close to reaching the 100 million install mark. Obviously it is not a crisis.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:01 am
From: HK

John wrote:
> LOL I do support and had customer complaining that when he upgraded code
> on our equipment some of his windows 98 quit working....
>
> "jamesgangnc" <jamesgangnc@gmail.com <mailto:jamesgangnc@gmail.com>>
> wrote in message news:13ua291ssjf479f@corp.supernews.com...
> MS has about some version of it's os on about 90% of all the
> personal computers. That is hundreds of millions of installations.
> There will always be people that have some combination of hardward
> and other software that ms did not anticipate and will cause the
> operation system to do something wrong.
>
> At the same time lots of organizations will delay implementing a new
> ms operating system. It generally has a lot more to do with their
> technical staff being familiar with the new software or their in
> house applications not being ready for the new os than problems.
> Though some will complain about the problems in the new os as well.
>
> That is not a new phenomenon. It has been happening since windows
> 3.1. As every version has matured the problems have declined.
> Simply because of the sheer volume of installations problems get
> more press that the other os'. For everyone with a problem there
> are 10s of thousands that have no problems at all. Vista is close
> to reaching the 100 million install mark. Obviously it is not a crisis.
>
>
>
>

I spent about an hour this past weekend reading about some of the
problems *some* Apple users are having with the latest release of OS X,
aka Leopard. Some Apple folk are having some serious issues. My guess is
that if Apple had the same sized user base for its operating systems as
Microsoft does, and if those Apple users were similar to Windows users,
the number and seriousness of problems would be similar.

If memory serves, I read where Apple has under 5% market share of
desktop PC operating systems.

This used to be a boater newsgroup. There's no requirement that posters
here have any knowledge of a computer OS or in fact have a boat. We have
plenty of boatless posters here who also present as too slow to use a
computer, too.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:11 am
From: "Reginald P. Smithers III" <"Reggie is Here "@yahoo.com>

HK wrote:
> John wrote:
>> LOL I do support and had customer complaining that when he upgraded
>> code on our equipment some of his windows 98 quit working....
>> "jamesgangnc" <jamesgangnc@gmail.com <mailto:jamesgangnc@gmail.com>>
>> wrote in message news:13ua291ssjf479f@corp.supernews.com...
>> MS has about some version of it's os on about 90% of all the
>> personal computers. That is hundreds of millions of
>> installations. There will always be people that have some
>> combination of hardward
>> and other software that ms did not anticipate and will cause the
>> operation system to do something wrong.
>> At the same time lots of organizations will delay
>> implementing a new
>> ms operating system. It generally has a lot more to do with their
>> technical staff being familiar with the new software or their in
>> house applications not being ready for the new os than problems.
>> Though some will complain about the problems in the new os as well.
>> That is not a new phenomenon. It has been happening since
>> windows
>> 3.1. As every version has matured the problems have declined.
>> Simply because of the sheer volume of installations problems get
>> more press that the other os'. For everyone with a problem there
>> are 10s of thousands that have no problems at all. Vista is close
>> to reaching the 100 million install mark. Obviously it is not a
>> crisis.
>>
>
>
> I spent about an hour this past weekend reading about some of the
> problems *some* Apple users are having with the latest release of OS X,
> aka Leopard. Some Apple folk are having some serious issues. My guess is
> that if Apple had the same sized user base for its operating systems as
> Microsoft does, and if those Apple users were similar to Windows users,
> the number and seriousness of problems would be similar.
>
> If memory serves, I read where Apple has under 5% market share of
> desktop PC operating systems.
>
> This used to be a boater newsgroup. There's no requirement that posters
> here have any knowledge of a computer OS or in fact have a boat. We have
> plenty of boatless posters here who also present as too slow to use a
> computer, too.

I wonder who started the discussion on how GREAT Vista was? Ohhhh yeah,
now I remember, it was Harry Krause. You are just upset because most
people don't think it offers any advantages over WinXP, but definitely
has a ton of bugs that MS has not been worked out. Univ. of Penn IT
dept. does not recommend Vista and does not recommend Vista SP1.

ZDNet conducted a survey and 80% of the IT depts. said they had will NOT
be updating to Vista, and they will continue using the same OS they
currently are using.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 10:17 am
From: "F.L.A.-J.I.M.@THENET.org"

"HK" <payer33859@mypacks.net> wrote in message
news:nKadne-Wi7T7Q3ranZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com...
> John wrote:
>> LOL I do support and had customer complaining that when he upgraded code
>> on our equipment some of his windows 98 quit working.... "jamesgangnc"
>> <jamesgangnc@gmail.com <mailto:jamesgangnc@gmail.com>>
>> wrote in message news:13ua291ssjf479f@corp.supernews.com...
>> MS has about some version of it's os on about 90% of all the
>> personal computers. That is hundreds of millions of installations.
>> There will always be people that have some combination of hardward
>> and other software that ms did not anticipate and will cause the
>> operation system to do something wrong.
>> At the same time lots of organizations will delay implementing a new
>> ms operating system. It generally has a lot more to do with their
>> technical staff being familiar with the new software or their in
>> house applications not being ready for the new os than problems.
>> Though some will complain about the problems in the new os as well.
>> That is not a new phenomenon. It has been happening since windows
>> 3.1. As every version has matured the problems have declined. Simply
>> because of the sheer volume of installations problems get
>> more press that the other os'. For everyone with a problem there
>> are 10s of thousands that have no problems at all. Vista is close
>> to reaching the 100 million install mark. Obviously it is not a
>> crisis.
>>
>
>
> I spent about an hour this past weekend reading about some of the problems
> *some* Apple users are having with the latest release of OS X, aka
> Leopard. Some Apple folk are having some serious issues. My guess is that
> if Apple had the same sized user base for its operating systems as
> Microsoft does, and if those Apple users were similar to Windows users,
> the number and seriousness of problems would be similar.
>
> If memory serves, I read where Apple has under 5% market share of desktop
> PC operating systems.
>
> This used to be a boater newsgroup. There's no requirement that posters
> here have any knowledge of a computer OS or in fact have a boat. We have
> plenty of boatless posters here who also present as too slow to use a
> computer, too.

PLONK

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