25 new messages in 3 topics - digest
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats?hl=en
rec.boats@googlegroups.com
Today's topics:
* SPAM-sneakerspam - 23 messages, 8 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/601fa9a20e03d980?hl=en
* Did Harry get a reduced rate at the "Del"? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/3bc31b5b4da5f909?hl=en
* "dry dock" in the water??? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/99875bec29a9de4c?hl=en
==============================================================================
TOPIC: SPAM-sneakerspam
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/601fa9a20e03d980?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 3:26 pm
From: Tim
D.Duck wrote:
>>
> You may be a little bit confused. There is an Internet Explorer v7, but
> Outlook Express v6 is and will be the final version of that one. There is a
> new version for Vista.
>
> I've been using OE v6, and it's earlier versions, for my day to day Usenet
> reading for many years.
>
> You will need a news server to use OE but there are free ones available that
> I'm quite sure would satisfy your needs.
> Google search for free Usenet servers and see if you can find one you like.
Duck, I think you may be right about that. I know I downloaded
something with v.7 I'll have to check when I get home.
Well, lets just say I downloaded "something"
== 2 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 3:26 pm
From: "Eisboch"
<justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ded9572-e103-4a53-84ef-9261faa938e6@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Too bad those great news readers don't have an "ignore thead" button,
that would solve everything.. too bad.. Later.
-----------------------------
They do. I just hit it.
Eisboch
== 3 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 3:31 pm
From: hk
justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 24, 5:53 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT),
>>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> I just don't understand why everyone is getting so upset over 3-4 one
>>>> character posts in one day, when Tim and I have made it clear it makes
>>>> it lot's easier for us to read.
>>> Well, let me put it this way - why aren't you using a newsreader that
>>> filters the spam out so you don't have to see it.
>>> The problem is this - you kill the spam for you, but you create spam
>>> for others by killing the spam. It makes no sense.
>> Actually Tom, what you are saying does make sense, that when we diddle
>> with a spammer it opens up spam for everyone else unless we're blocked,
>> in a bin.
>>
>> i may be slow but I still have army boots.
>
> I am about out, but I will make this final point. I don't use OE,
> don't want to open that can of worms on anything here. I use a web
> based package with anti-spam add on packages and mods we have
> developed over the last decade. Out of some 200,000 spams that hit my
> 15 year old mailbox daily (one box of sereral), 90% never get though
> to the pop server at all, another 9.5+% get tagged through a rating
> system based on several aspects of the message/headers, origionator,
> etc.. and about 15-20 a day get through, with a high rating and
> clearly marked as spam. I can also set my server side module to bounce
> them too. Every day or two, one or two spams might get through,
> untagged, not a big deal from my perspective.
Well, that's a wonderful solution for your email pop server, but
newsgroups use news servers to gather articles, not pop servers.
== 4 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 3:44 pm
From: justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com
On Mar 24, 6:31 pm, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Mar 24, 5:53 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT),
> >>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> I just don't understand why everyone is getting so upset over 3-4 one
> >>>> character posts in one day, when Tim and I have made it clear it makes
> >>>> it lot's easier for us to read.
> >>> Well, let me put it this way - why aren't you using a newsreader that
> >>> filters the spam out so you don't have to see it.
> >>> The problem is this - you kill the spam for you, but you create spam
> >>> for others by killing the spam. It makes no sense.
> >> Actually Tom, what you are saying does make sense, that when we diddle
> >> with a spammer it opens up spam for everyone else unless we're blocked,
> >> in a bin.
>
> >> i may be slow but I still have army boots.
>
> > I am about out, but I will make this final point. I don't use OE,
> > don't want to open that can of worms on anything here. I use a web
> > based package with anti-spam add on packages and mods we have
> > developed over the last decade. Out of some 200,000 spams that hit my
> > 15 year old mailbox daily (one box of sereral), 90% never get though
> > to the pop server at all, another 9.5+% get tagged through a rating
> > system based on several aspects of the message/headers, origionator,
> > etc.. and about 15-20 a day get through, with a high rating and
> > clearly marked as spam. I can also set my server side module to bounce
> > them too. Every day or two, one or two spams might get through,
> > untagged, not a big deal from my perspective.
>
> Well, that's a wonderful solution for your email pop server, but
> newsgroups use news servers to gather articles, not pop servers.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Dick got my point... He hit ignore thread button... And we can stil
talk in other threads I suppose.
== 5 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 4:07 pm
From: Short Wave Sportfishing
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:20:40 -0700 (PDT),
justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
> I
>guess if I have to set up readers, install OE, set up a news server,
>etc, everytime I rebuild a system, or go to a friends house for a few
>hours, want to go on vacation, it' just time for a newsgroup vacation.
I understand your point, but I think you are confusing something.
These aren't server side problems - they are client side problems. And
the solution is to use a reader, on your laptop, that clears the spam
for you.
Secondly, if you are using a direct Usenet feed, then you are going to
see them. I use Easynews as a feed which uses the Supernews model for
spam. Very little gets through. I had a conversation with one of
Easynew's techs when I donated a ton of idle server time (I only use
about 15% of my alloted download bandwidth to the Space Watch and the
Dana Farber Research Institute for use in their research) and she told
me that they clean roughly 1,200 spam messages a day, but some gets
through. I don't see the China spam stuff unless you dot it and label
it something else. That's what I'm talking about - I don't even know
it's there unless you or Tim dot it.
Maybe I'm missing the point - I'm willing to admit I'm wrong about
this, but it seems to me that you are looking at it the worng way
around.
== 6 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 4:11 pm
From: Short Wave Sportfishing
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT),
justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
>Dick got my point... He hit ignore thread button... And we can stil
>talk in other threads I suppose.
Hey - send me your phone number - I've lost it - again.
== 7 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 4:13 pm
From: justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com
On Mar 24, 7:11 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT),
>
> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >Dick got my point... He hit ignore thread button... And we can stil
> >talk in other threads I suppose.
>
> Hey - send me your phone number - I've lost it - again.
Now you are just trying to get me in trouble;)
== 8 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 4:21 pm
From: HK
justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 24, 6:31 pm, hk <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Mar 24, 5:53 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT),
>>>>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> I just don't understand why everyone is getting so upset over 3-4 one
>>>>>> character posts in one day, when Tim and I have made it clear it makes
>>>>>> it lot's easier for us to read.
>>>>> Well, let me put it this way - why aren't you using a newsreader that
>>>>> filters the spam out so you don't have to see it.
>>>>> The problem is this - you kill the spam for you, but you create spam
>>>>> for others by killing the spam. It makes no sense.
>>>> Actually Tom, what you are saying does make sense, that when we diddle
>>>> with a spammer it opens up spam for everyone else unless we're blocked,
>>>> in a bin.
>>>> i may be slow but I still have army boots.
>>> I am about out, but I will make this final point. I don't use OE,
>>> don't want to open that can of worms on anything here. I use a web
>>> based package with anti-spam add on packages and mods we have
>>> developed over the last decade. Out of some 200,000 spams that hit my
>>> 15 year old mailbox daily (one box of sereral), 90% never get though
>>> to the pop server at all, another 9.5+% get tagged through a rating
>>> system based on several aspects of the message/headers, origionator,
>>> etc.. and about 15-20 a day get through, with a high rating and
>>> clearly marked as spam. I can also set my server side module to bounce
>>> them too. Every day or two, one or two spams might get through,
>>> untagged, not a big deal from my perspective.
>> Well, that's a wonderful solution for your email pop server, but
>> newsgroups use news servers to gather articles, not pop servers.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Dick got my point... He hit ignore thread button... And we can stil
> talk in other threads I suppose.
You missed the point. Simply use a decent news reader program with filters.
As I stated, I don't find the chinaspam crap annoying.
== 9 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 4:24 pm
From: "JimH"
<justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ac915298-1dcc-4aa5-a891-d71d3b40414f@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 24, 7:11 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT),
>
> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >Dick got my point... He hit ignore thread button... And we can stil
> >talk in other threads I suppose.
>
> Hey - send me your phone number - I've lost it - again.
Now you are just trying to get me in trouble;)
=================
Keeerist Scotty. Just take Tom's offer for a NG reader (or solutions
others offered) and move on already instead of continuing your bitching here
about your problem. Jeesh.
== 10 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:28 pm
From: John H.
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:20:40 -0700 (PDT), justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com
wrote:
>On Mar 24, 5:53 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>> > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT),
>> > justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > >I just don't understand why everyone is getting so upset over 3-4 one
>> > >character posts in one day, when Tim and I have made it clear it makes
>> > >it lot's easier for us to read.
>>
>> > Well, let me put it this way - why aren't you using a newsreader that
>> > filters the spam out so you don't have to see it.
>>
>> > The problem is this - you kill the spam for you, but you create spam
>> > for others by killing the spam. It makes no sense.
>>
>> Actually Tom, what you are saying does make sense, that when we diddle
>> with a spammer it opens up spam for everyone else unless we're blocked,
>> in a bin.
>>
>> i may be slow but I still have army boots.
>
>I am about out, but I will make this final point. I don't use OE,
>don't want to open that can of worms on anything here. I use a web
>based package with anti-spam add on packages and mods we have
>developed over the last decade. Out of some 200,000 spams that hit my
>15 year old mailbox daily (one box of sereral), 90% never get though
>to the pop server at all, another 9.5+% get tagged through a rating
>system based on several aspects of the message/headers, origionator,
>etc.. and about 15-20 a day get through, with a high rating and
>clearly marked as spam. I can also set my server side module to bounce
>them too. Every day or two, one or two spams might get through,
>untagged, not a big deal from my perspective. Our server
>administration is set up similarly, web based, billing, encryption,
>everything. All I need here to run my business is a laptop with a
>browser, and a text editor. What I am saying is we can do anything we
>do, on almost any computer, anywhere. We have worked for over a decade
>to get to that point (run a 24/7 business, and have a life too). I
>guess if I have to set up readers, install OE, set up a news server,
>etc, everytime I rebuild a system, or go to a friends house for a few
>hours, want to go on vacation, it' just time for a newsgroup vacation.
>Too bad those great news readers don't have an "ignore thead" button,
>that would solve everything.. too bad.. Later.
It takes only about 4 minutes to install Agent. It has an ignore thread
option, but you are usually starting a new thread with your 'china spam' or
'shoe spam' or whatever.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)
== 11 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 4:36 pm
From: justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com
On Mar 24, 7:24 pm, "JimH" <as...@nope.com> wrote:
> <justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ac915298-1dcc-4aa5-a891-d71d3b40414f@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 24, 7:11 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT),
>
> > justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >Dick got my point... He hit ignore thread button... And we can stil
> > >talk in other threads I suppose.
>
> > Hey - send me your phone number - I've lost it - again.
>
> Now you are just trying to get me in trouble;)
> =================
>
> Keeerist Scotty. Just take Tom's offer for a NG reader (or solutions
> others offered) and move on already instead of continuing your bitching here
> about your problem. Jeesh.
Keeeeerist, my only problem is everyone crying about a dot!!!
== 12 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 4:40 pm
From: justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com
On Mar 24, 8:28 pm, John H. <jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:20:40 -0700 (PDT), justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 24, 5:53 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT),
> >> > justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> > >I just don't understand why everyone is getting so upset over 3-4 one
> >> > >character posts in one day, when Tim and I have made it clear it makes
> >> > >it lot's easier for us to read.
>
> >> > Well, let me put it this way - why aren't you using a newsreader that
> >> > filters the spam out so you don't have to see it.
>
> >> > The problem is this - you kill the spam for you, but you create spam
> >> > for others by killing the spam. It makes no sense.
>
> >> Actually Tom, what you are saying does make sense, that when we diddle
> >> with a spammer it opens up spam for everyone else unless we're blocked,
> >> in a bin.
>
> >> i may be slow but I still have army boots.
>
> >I am about out, but I will make this final point. I don't use OE,
> >don't want to open that can of worms on anything here. I use a web
> >based package with anti-spam add on packages and mods we have
> >developed over the last decade. Out of some 200,000 spams that hit my
> >15 year old mailbox daily (one box of sereral), 90% never get though
> >to the pop server at all, another 9.5+% get tagged through a rating
> >system based on several aspects of the message/headers, origionator,
> >etc.. and about 15-20 a day get through, with a high rating and
> >clearly marked as spam. I can also set my server side module to bounce
> >them too. Every day or two, one or two spams might get through,
> >untagged, not a big deal from my perspective. Our server
> >administration is set up similarly, web based, billing, encryption,
> >everything. All I need here to run my business is a laptop with a
> >browser, and a text editor. What I am saying is we can do anything we
> >do, on almost any computer, anywhere. We have worked for over a decade
> >to get to that point (run a 24/7 business, and have a life too). I
> >guess if I have to set up readers, install OE, set up a news server,
> >etc, everytime I rebuild a system, or go to a friends house for a few
> >hours, want to go on vacation, it' just time for a newsgroup vacation.
> >Too bad those great news readers don't have an "ignore thead" button,
> >that would solve everything.. too bad.. Later.
>
> It takes only about 4 minutes to install Agent. It has an ignore thread
> option, but you are usually starting a new thread with your 'china spam' or
> 'shoe spam' or whatever.
>
> --
> John *H*
> (Not the other one!)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I don't really care how long it takes, I would never install anything
on someones computer, even with permission. Trust me, as a tech, I
know that once you do that, everything that ever happens to that, and
their next two computers is your fault;) That was the point of all of
our work in the first place, we can work from anywhere, anytime.
Anyway, I am done here for now, catch me at my website...
Scotty from **********.***;)
== 13 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 4:42 pm
From: Short Wave Sportfishing
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:13:52 -0700 (PDT),
justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
>On Mar 24, 7:11 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
>wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT),
>>
>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >Dick got my point... He hit ignore thread button... And we can stil
>> >talk in other threads I suppose.
>>
>> Hey - send me your phone number - I've lost it - again.
>
>Now you are just trying to get me in trouble;)
Fine - don't - see if I care.
I'll just give all that fishing gear to somebody else. :>)
== 14 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 4:45 pm
From: Short Wave Sportfishing
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:36:05 -0700 (PDT),
justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
>Keeeeerist, my only problem is everyone crying about a dot!!!
Dots are dangerous. You start with one dot and then it's two dots and
you think you have everything under control then it's three dots, then
six dots but it's fine, you can quit anytime you want - the dots don't
control you then it's twelve dots, twenty four dots and the next thing
you know, you're in the gutter and heading to dot rehab meetings
standing up and saying:
I'm Scott and I'm a dotaholic. :>)
== 15 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:54 pm
From: John H.
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:40:33 -0700 (PDT), justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com
wrote:
>On Mar 24, 8:28 pm, John H. <jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:20:40 -0700 (PDT), justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Mar 24, 5:53 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT),
>> >> > justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >> > >I just don't understand why everyone is getting so upset over 3-4 one
>> >> > >character posts in one day, when Tim and I have made it clear it makes
>> >> > >it lot's easier for us to read.
>>
>> >> > Well, let me put it this way - why aren't you using a newsreader that
>> >> > filters the spam out so you don't have to see it.
>>
>> >> > The problem is this - you kill the spam for you, but you create spam
>> >> > for others by killing the spam. It makes no sense.
>>
>> >> Actually Tom, what you are saying does make sense, that when we diddle
>> >> with a spammer it opens up spam for everyone else unless we're blocked,
>> >> in a bin.
>>
>> >> i may be slow but I still have army boots.
>>
>> >I am about out, but I will make this final point. I don't use OE,
>> >don't want to open that can of worms on anything here. I use a web
>> >based package with anti-spam add on packages and mods we have
>> >developed over the last decade. Out of some 200,000 spams that hit my
>> >15 year old mailbox daily (one box of sereral), 90% never get though
>> >to the pop server at all, another 9.5+% get tagged through a rating
>> >system based on several aspects of the message/headers, origionator,
>> >etc.. and about 15-20 a day get through, with a high rating and
>> >clearly marked as spam. I can also set my server side module to bounce
>> >them too. Every day or two, one or two spams might get through,
>> >untagged, not a big deal from my perspective. Our server
>> >administration is set up similarly, web based, billing, encryption,
>> >everything. All I need here to run my business is a laptop with a
>> >browser, and a text editor. What I am saying is we can do anything we
>> >do, on almost any computer, anywhere. We have worked for over a decade
>> >to get to that point (run a 24/7 business, and have a life too). I
>> >guess if I have to set up readers, install OE, set up a news server,
>> >etc, everytime I rebuild a system, or go to a friends house for a few
>> >hours, want to go on vacation, it' just time for a newsgroup vacation.
>> >Too bad those great news readers don't have an "ignore thead" button,
>> >that would solve everything.. too bad.. Later.
>>
>> It takes only about 4 minutes to install Agent. It has an ignore thread
>> option, but you are usually starting a new thread with your 'china spam' or
>> 'shoe spam' or whatever.
>>
>> --
>> John *H*
>> (Not the other one!)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I don't really care how long it takes, I would never install anything
>on someones computer, even with permission. Trust me, as a tech, I
>know that once you do that, everything that ever happens to that, and
>their next two computers is your fault;) That was the point of all of
>our work in the first place, we can work from anywhere, anytime.
>Anyway, I am done here for now, catch me at my website...
>
>Scotty from **********.***;)
My fault, I misread your post. Didn't realize you were using someone else's
computer.
My earlier comment still stands, so don't go bugging out on us.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)
== 16 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:55 pm
From: John H.
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:45:52 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email@swsportsremove.org> wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:36:05 -0700 (PDT),
>justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Keeeeerist, my only problem is everyone crying about a dot!!!
>
>Dots are dangerous. You start with one dot and then it's two dots and
>you think you have everything under control then it's three dots, then
>six dots but it's fine, you can quit anytime you want - the dots don't
>control you then it's twelve dots, twenty four dots and the next thing
>you know, you're in the gutter and heading to dot rehab meetings
>standing up and saying:
>
>I'm Scott and I'm a dotaholic. :>)
LOL!
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)
== 17 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:05 pm
From: HK
justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 24, 8:28 pm, John H. <jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:20:40 -0700 (PDT), justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 24, 5:53 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT),
>>>>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> I just don't understand why everyone is getting so upset over 3-4 one
>>>>>> character posts in one day, when Tim and I have made it clear it makes
>>>>>> it lot's easier for us to read.
>>>>> Well, let me put it this way - why aren't you using a newsreader that
>>>>> filters the spam out so you don't have to see it.
>>>>> The problem is this - you kill the spam for you, but you create spam
>>>>> for others by killing the spam. It makes no sense.
>>>> Actually Tom, what you are saying does make sense, that when we diddle
>>>> with a spammer it opens up spam for everyone else unless we're blocked,
>>>> in a bin.
>>>> i may be slow but I still have army boots.
>>> I am about out, but I will make this final point. I don't use OE,
>>> don't want to open that can of worms on anything here. I use a web
>>> based package with anti-spam add on packages and mods we have
>>> developed over the last decade. Out of some 200,000 spams that hit my
>>> 15 year old mailbox daily (one box of sereral), 90% never get though
>>> to the pop server at all, another 9.5+% get tagged through a rating
>>> system based on several aspects of the message/headers, origionator,
>>> etc.. and about 15-20 a day get through, with a high rating and
>>> clearly marked as spam. I can also set my server side module to bounce
>>> them too. Every day or two, one or two spams might get through,
>>> untagged, not a big deal from my perspective. Our server
>>> administration is set up similarly, web based, billing, encryption,
>>> everything. All I need here to run my business is a laptop with a
>>> browser, and a text editor. What I am saying is we can do anything we
>>> do, on almost any computer, anywhere. We have worked for over a decade
>>> to get to that point (run a 24/7 business, and have a life too). I
>>> guess if I have to set up readers, install OE, set up a news server,
>>> etc, everytime I rebuild a system, or go to a friends house for a few
>>> hours, want to go on vacation, it' just time for a newsgroup vacation.
>>> Too bad those great news readers don't have an "ignore thead" button,
>>> that would solve everything.. too bad.. Later.
>> It takes only about 4 minutes to install Agent. It has an ignore thread
>> option, but you are usually starting a new thread with your 'china spam' or
>> 'shoe spam' or whatever.
>>
>> --
>> John *H*
>> (Not the other one!)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I don't really care how long it takes, I would never install anything
> on someones computer, even with permission. Trust me, as a tech, I
> know that once you do that, everything that ever happens to that, and
> their next two computers is your fault;) That was the point of all of
> our work in the first place, we can work from anywhere, anytime.
> Anyway, I am done here for now, catch me at my website...
>
> Scotty from **********.***;)
When I am away from my machines, I get my emails and newsgroup via a USB
stick with the portable versions of the programs installed. Nothing is
installed on the machine I am using.
== 18 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:08 pm
From: justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com
On Mar 24, 7:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:13:52 -0700 (PDT),
>
> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >On Mar 24, 7:11 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
> >wrote:
> >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT),
>
> >> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >Dick got my point... He hit ignore thread button... And we can stil
> >> >talk in other threads I suppose.
>
> >> Hey - send me your phone number - I've lost it - again.
>
> >Now you are just trying to get me in trouble;)
>
> Fine - don't - see if I care.
>
> I'll just give all that fishing gear to somebody else. :>)
give me a bit of time man, I am fighting a whole frekin' basket of
sockpuppets,, arrrrrg. nightmares.. spam, spam, spam...
arrrrr..ggggggggggggg
== 19 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:15 pm
From: Short Wave Sportfishing
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:08:15 -0700 (PDT),
justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
>On Mar 24, 7:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
>wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:13:52 -0700 (PDT),
>>
>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >On Mar 24, 7:11 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
>> >wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT),
>>
>> >> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >Dick got my point... He hit ignore thread button... And we can stil
>> >> >talk in other threads I suppose.
>>
>> >> Hey - send me your phone number - I've lost it - again.
>>
>> >Now you are just trying to get me in trouble;)
>>
>> Fine - don't - see if I care.
>>
>> I'll just give all that fishing gear to somebody else. :>)
>
>give me a bit of time man, I am fighting a whole frekin' basket of
>sockpuppets,, arrrrrg. nightmares.. spam, spam, spam...
>arrrrr..ggggggggggggg
Pansy. :>)
== 20 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:17 pm
From: "D.Duck"
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:0dcgu3t51don034bufr5a0g5a2vq2lfhvm@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:20:40 -0700 (PDT),
> justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I
>>guess if I have to set up readers, install OE, set up a news server,
>>etc, everytime I rebuild a system, or go to a friends house for a few
>>hours, want to go on vacation, it' just time for a newsgroup vacation.
>
> I understand your point, but I think you are confusing something.
>
> These aren't server side problems - they are client side problems. And
> the solution is to use a reader, on your laptop, that clears the spam
> for you.
>
> Secondly, if you are using a direct Usenet feed, then you are going to
> see them. I use Easynews as a feed which uses the Supernews model for
> spam. Very little gets through. I had a conversation with one of
> Easynew's techs when I donated a ton of idle server time (I only use
> about 15% of my alloted download bandwidth to the Space Watch and the
> Dana Farber Research Institute for use in their research) and she told
> me that they clean roughly 1,200 spam messages a day, but some gets
> through. I don't see the China spam stuff unless you dot it and label
> it something else. That's what I'm talking about - I don't even know
> it's there unless you or Tim dot it.
>
> Maybe I'm missing the point - I'm willing to admit I'm wrong about
> this, but it seems to me that you are looking at it the worng way
> around.
What the heck is wrong with it:
I luv it.
== 21 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:25 pm
From: Tim
On Mar 24, 5:26 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> D.Duck wrote:
>
> > You may be a little bit confused. There is an Internet Explorer v7, but
> > Outlook Express v6 is and will be the final version of that one. There is a
> > new version for Vista.
>
> > I've been using OE v6, and it's earlier versions, for my day to day Usenet
> > reading for many years.
>
> > You will need a news server to use OE but there are free ones available that
> > I'm quite sure would satisfy your needs.
> > Google search for free Usenet servers and see if you can find one you like.
>
> Duck, I think you may be right about that. I know I downloaded
> something with v.7 I'll have to check when I get home.
>
> Well, lets just say I downloaded "something"
Well I'll be
That's exactly what I did. I downloaded IE v7.
i thougt the selection page looked a bit odd. But anyway, that's ok at
least it bounced AOL from taking over the homepage by aggression.
nuts with AOL! I'm surprised they haven't tanked a long time ago.
but that was disgussed in another thread when Soggydog thought I
should be reported for terms of violation, when there was nothing
violated.
Oh well. Go ahead. Make My Day!
== 22 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:29 pm
From: justwaitafrekinminute@gmail.com
On Mar 24, 8:05 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Mar 24, 8:28 pm, John H. <jherringnumerical...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:20:40 -0700 (PDT), justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Mar 24, 5:53 pm, Tim <tschna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT),
> >>>>> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> I just don't understand why everyone is getting so upset over 3-4 one
> >>>>>> character posts in one day, when Tim and I have made it clear it makes
> >>>>>> it lot's easier for us to read.
> >>>>> Well, let me put it this way - why aren't you using a newsreader that
> >>>>> filters the spam out so you don't have to see it.
> >>>>> The problem is this - you kill the spam for you, but you create spam
> >>>>> for others by killing the spam. It makes no sense.
> >>>> Actually Tom, what you are saying does make sense, that when we diddle
> >>>> with a spammer it opens up spam for everyone else unless we're blocked,
> >>>> in a bin.
> >>>> i may be slow but I still have army boots.
> >>> I am about out, but I will make this final point. I don't use OE,
> >>> don't want to open that can of worms on anything here. I use a web
> >>> based package with anti-spam add on packages and mods we have
> >>> developed over the last decade. Out of some 200,000 spams that hit my
> >>> 15 year old mailbox daily (one box of sereral), 90% never get though
> >>> to the pop server at all, another 9.5+% get tagged through a rating
> >>> system based on several aspects of the message/headers, origionator,
> >>> etc.. and about 15-20 a day get through, with a high rating and
> >>> clearly marked as spam. I can also set my server side module to bounce
> >>> them too. Every day or two, one or two spams might get through,
> >>> untagged, not a big deal from my perspective. Our server
> >>> administration is set up similarly, web based, billing, encryption,
> >>> everything. All I need here to run my business is a laptop with a
> >>> browser, and a text editor. What I am saying is we can do anything we
> >>> do, on almost any computer, anywhere. We have worked for over a decade
> >>> to get to that point (run a 24/7 business, and have a life too). I
> >>> guess if I have to set up readers, install OE, set up a news server,
> >>> etc, everytime I rebuild a system, or go to a friends house for a few
> >>> hours, want to go on vacation, it' just time for a newsgroup vacation.
> >>> Too bad those great news readers don't have an "ignore thead" button,
> >>> that would solve everything.. too bad.. Later.
> >> It takes only about 4 minutes to install Agent. It has an ignore thread
> >> option, but you are usually starting a new thread with your 'china spam' or
> >> 'shoe spam' or whatever.
>
> >> --
> >> John *H*
> >> (Not the other one!)- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I don't really care how long it takes, I would never install anything
> > on someones computer, even with permission. Trust me, as a tech, I
> > know that once you do that, everything that ever happens to that, and
> > their next two computers is your fault;) That was the point of all of
> > our work in the first place, we can work from anywhere, anytime.
> > Anyway, I am done here for now, catch me at my website...
>
> > Scotty from **********.***;)
>
> When I am away from my machines, I get my emails and newsgroup via a USB
> stick with the portable versions of the programs installed. Nothing is
> installed on the machine I am using.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Baggage... All I need is a teahouse or a library, even if they lose my
luggage or it falls off the boat, in the campfire, gets stolen. It was
something that we took years to work out with different providers and
developers, we wanted that from day one. The first hosting servers we
had, we had to convince a NOC that "hosting" was going to be a great
business and they should let us have more than 5 IP's per machine;)
Before that, they only provided dedicated servers to individual
businesses. We had a lot to do with the origional development of their
first automated billing, and GUI based web administration of client
websites, email, other bells and whistles.. But from the beginning we
knew we wanted everything to eventually be available securly, with a
simple browser.. In the beginning we could run things, but needed ssh
or similar and pgp... We did all this so we can provide 24/7 service,
within reason, or get to a computer and make adjustments, from about
anywhere, anytime. That allows us to go pretty much anywhere we want,
as long as we know we have a phone for emergency calls, and a computer
with a browser.. And they are almost anywhere.
We have gotten calls say at a friends for dinner. Something simple
like someone has used up their disk space. We can go in quickly, check
the email boxes, usually empty the box, or if they wish, increase the
bandwidth for their account, and be back on the water in 10 minutes.
With the cell card for the laptop, we can work from just about
anywhere...
The biggest benefit is mrs. JW can come out and play with me and the
kids, even if we are going visiting half way across the state. Or take
a couple of weeks in Florida with my bud and know we have access to
everything as soon as we hit the ground and get to his house. Works
for us.
== 23 of 23 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:31 pm
From: Tim
On Mar 24, 6:42 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:13:52 -0700 (PDT),
>
> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >On Mar 24, 7:11 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org>
> >wrote:
> >> On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT),
>
> >> justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >Dick got my point... He hit ignore thread button... And we can stil
> >> >talk in other threads I suppose.
>
> >> Hey - send me your phone number - I've lost it - again.
>
> >Now you are just trying to get me in trouble;)
>
> Fine - don't - see if I care.
>
> I'll just give all that fishing gear to somebody else. :>)
Tom, I'll send you mine as Scott's proxy.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Did Harry get a reduced rate at the "Del"?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/3bc31b5b4da5f909?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:09 pm
From: "William Bruce"
<LoogyPicker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a8f7910-8272-4741-ac80-cb344701f140@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 24, 9:54 am, camacdonaldiii <camacdonald...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 24, 8:24 am, LoogyPic...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Seeing how they were doing renovation and construction:
>
> >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/23/TR6MUPD3M...
>
> wonder how many were in the audience for his presentation?
He did nothing more than tag along with his wife.
_______________
Ahh Loogy, surely not. I had it pictured in my mind as Kraussie playing to
a SRO crowd. Are you saying [gasp] that Kraussie was lying?
==============================================================================
TOPIC: "dry dock" in the water???
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/browse_thread/thread/99875bec29a9de4c?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 24 2008 5:13 pm
From: L D'Bonnie
noonoo@noopy.noo wrote:
> Since often (too often) boats develop problems with
> an outdrive requiring the boat to be pulled, which is
> often quite the pain in the ass, it seems there should
> be some way of putting an enclosure around the
> outdrive which is big enough to hold a person, so
> it could be pumped out and someone could get in
> to work on the drive. Does anyone know of such?
There are displacement issues to deal with that would
probably negate the practicality of such an enclosure.
Why don't you invent a big air bladder. Slide it under
your bout and inflate. Properly designed you could lift
the stern out of the water all the way to lawyer heaven.
LdB
==============================================================================
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "rec.boats"
group.
To post to this group, visit http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats?hl=en
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rec.boats-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
To change the way you get mail from this group, visit:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.boats/subscribe?hl=en
To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse@googlegroups.com
==============================================================================
Google Groups: http://groups.google.com?hl=en
posted by The Captain at
5:33 PM
0 Comments:
Post a Comment
Subscribe to Post Comments [Atom]
<< Home