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TOPIC: Smoking on Cruises
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/f18241f80e4400f0?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 10:38 am
From: Susette

The reason that the "PARADISE" non smoking ship did not last was for a
specific reason GROUPS.. YOU need Groups to fill a ship, and with NO
SMOKING there is always some one in a group that is a smoker and need
to accomadate them somehow so they would go to a ship that had areas
of smoking. Which is fair, I DO NOT smoke and do not like it at all,
HOWEVEr for those that do there needs to be a area for this. Guess on
the solstice it will be in the PARK on the GRASS hahahaha

Most do not allow stogies other then in the CIgar bar.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 3:39 pm
From: Brian

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:16:10 -0600, "George Leppla"
<george@cruisemaster.com> wrote:

>Ahhh, Brian. You are finally catching on. "Clint" is one of r.t.c.'s long
>standing trolls. Less offensive than most trolls (and sometimes, pretty
>funny), but a troll none the less.

At least there isn't foul language involved.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 3:42 pm
From: Brian

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:38:00 -0800 (PST), Susette
<cruiseoutlets@aol.com> wrote:

>The reason that the "PARADISE" non smoking ship did not last was for a
>specific reason GROUPS.. YOU need Groups to fill a ship, and with NO
>SMOKING there is always some one in a group that is a smoker and need
>to accomadate them somehow so they would go to a ship that had areas
>of smoking. Which is fair, I DO NOT smoke and do not like it at all,
>HOWEVEr for those that do there needs to be a area for this. Guess on
>the solstice it will be in the PARK on the GRASS hahahaha
>
>Most do not allow stogies other then in the CIgar bar.
>

We went on a cruise last year with a group of about a hundred and I
don't think anyone smoked. None of the adults although there could
have been a couple of teens who did.

They are going again this summer. We aren't and although there are
several reasons we aren't, one was the smoking on last year's ship.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 6:48 pm
From: "Boomer"

"Brian" <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:sjk3t3tsrku2b5mdrvun78mfh0vvj4h00f@4ax.com...
> They are going again this summer. We aren't and although there are
> several reasons we aren't, one was the smoking on last year's ship.
>
Which ship was so bad you choose not to go because of the smoke?

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TOPIC: Royal Caribbean Declares Dividend!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/3aa0a91f4e3e3325?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 10:45 am
From: Ray Goldenberg

Hi Everyone,

I received this press release from Royal Caribbean and thought it
would be of interest. If you have missed any of my news' postings,
they are available on my web site.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com

Royal Caribbean Declares Dividend

MIAMI, March 7
The Board of Directors of Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. (NYSE: RCL -
News) today declared a quarterly dividend of $0.15 per share payable
on April 1, 2008, to shareholders of record at the close of business
on March 17, 2008.

This is the 58th consecutive quarter Royal Caribbean's Board of
Directors has voted to declare a dividend to shareholders.

Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. is a global cruise vacation company that
operates Royal Caribbean International, Celebrity Cruises, Pullmantur,
Azamara Cruises and CDF Croisieres de France. The company has a
combined total of 37 ships in service and seven under construction. It
also offers unique land- tour vacations in Alaska, Asia, Australia,
New Zealand, Canada, Europe and South America. Additional information
can be found by contacting your travel professional.

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TOPIC: All About Malaysia Info : Travel, Food, People, Culture, News, Videos,
Pictures, etc
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/69efa30501a3d6df?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 11:51 am
From: ALL ABOUT MALAYSIA INFO

All About Malaysia Info : Travel, Food, People, Culture, News, Videos,
Pictures, etc

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TOPIC: Entertainment on Celebrity Solstice!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/df0be41974af38ae?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 12:01 pm
From: Ray Goldenberg

Hi Everyone,

I received this press release from Celebrity and thought it would be
of interest. If you have missed any of my news' postings, they are
available on my web site.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com

New Entertainment on Celebrity Solstice is Sheer Poetry

MIAMI, March 7
Eight months from its launch, Celebrity Cruises' newest ship,
Celebrity Solstice, already is being heralded as the most exciting
ship entering the market in 2008. In recent months, Celebrity has
revealed a series of brand-defining, first-in-the-industry features on
Celebrity Solstice, including staterooms 15 percent larger than those
on previous Celebrity ships, a half-acre Lawn Club with real grass, a
glassblowing show and studio developed with The Corning Museum of
Glass, and unrivaled dining venues offering trendsetting cuisine and
design.

Today, Celebrity set the stage for more of the widely varied
entertainment guests can experience on Celebrity Solstice, including
new theater productions through an exclusive partnership with Poet
Theatricals.

Led by Michael McPherson and Patrice Marques - whose backgrounds
include both performance and production with Franco Dragone, Circo
Luci, FOUR: Spirit of the Elements, and the creation and production of
the first worldwide touring show of the Lido de Paris - Poet
Theatricals is creating three original shows that can be seen only on
Celebrity Solstice.

"Our inspiration for the new shows stems extensively from the
extraordinary style and design of the ship, not to mention its name,"
said Michael McPherson, Poet Theatricals. "Celebrity Solstice conjures
up images of light and an alluring ancient mystique, so our shows are
built around that theme."

The three shows are:

"Solstice": This European-style theatrical circus is built around the
clash of day and night, and includes vocalists, physical comedy,
breathtaking group acrobatic and aerial performances and other
specialty acts, in a celestial celebration.

"Ghost Light": On the eve of an old Broadway theater's closing, the
cast performing the venue's final show reminisces about all the
productions the theater has hosted, leading to the venue to illuminate
once again, in celebration of Broadway favorites past and present.

"Pulse": Guests aren't likely to sit still when this show's central
character, "Rhythm Man," ignites a motion and vocal spectacular driven
by the widely varied music and instruments that create the beat.

Complementing the three shows are a variety of specialty acts, also
created with Poet Theatricals, including still performers, ring
jugglers, fairy characters and a variety of acrobatic artists.

"Travelers today have experienced such a variety of entertainment, so
we need to ensure we continually offer new and unexpected options,
along with some of the most popular programming," said Celebrity
Cruises' Vice President of Hotel Operations and Entertainment, Lisa
Lutoff-Perlo. "We think we've accomplished that with the breadth of
entertainment guests will experience on Celebrity Solstice."

The state-of-the-art theater on Celebrity Solstice seats 1,115 guests
and has been expressly designed to optimize sight lines and bring
guests closer to the entertainers. A curved stage creates an almost
theater-in-the-round experience. The traditional orchestra pit was
omitted to allow for more guest seating in the sought-after central
area of the venue, with musicians' platforms instead positioned to the
left and right of the stage.

In addition to shows in the theater on Celebrity Solstice, the
abundance of entertainment onboard will extend into multiple other
venues, as well:

Sky Observation Lounge

The new signature lounge atop Celebrity Solstice will invite guests to
participate in multiple styles of dance, with the entire venue
transforming to reflect each nightly theme. From wild red for tango
nights to midnight blue for ballroom dance, guests will have the
opportunity to participate in lessons during the day, in preparation
for dancing the night away.

Celebrity Central

Ideally-suited for late-night comedy shows, cooking demonstrations,
enrichment lectures and feature films, this 200-guest venue also will
present proprietary, must-see shows and events.

Entertainment Court

Located in the center of the ship and flanked by Celebrity Central and
the hip Quasar nightclub, the Entertainment Court will serve as an
entertainment hub on Celebrity Solstice. The Court's unique design and
proximity to Quasar allows for opening up both venues to create a
larger entertainment atmosphere at night. During daytime hours, the
Court might bring such surprises as psychics and caricature artists to
entertain guests of all ages.

Quasar

Guests who love the mod, futuristic designs of the '60s and '70s will
find Quasar particularly captivating. Cocoon-shaped acrylic chairs
suspended from the ceiling will enhance the drama of the space, as
will state-of-the-art lighting and four large LED screens programmed
to create a nightly light show synchronized with the music.

The Pool Deck

An unique series of animated water fountains that can be synchronized
to music will serve as a constant source of surprise on the pool deck
onboard Celebrity Solstice. Meanwhile, live music will be performed on
the adjacent stage on days at sea, as well as during themed parties
and other special events.

Michael's Club

A signature space across the Celebrity fleet, Michael's Club on
Celebrity Solstice will invite privacy and intimacy, amidst a backdrop
of soothing piano and jazz music, and rich, comfortable furnishings.

Ensemble Lounge

The ideal setting for a cocktail with live music prior to an
extraordinary specialty dining experience, the Ensemble Lounge's
aubergine accents and stylish, contemporary furnishings will reflect a
period when jazz greats Duke Ellington and Count Basie reigned
supreme.

Celebrity Cruises offers comfortably sophisticated, upscale cruise
experiences with highly personalized service, exceptional dining, and
extraordinary attention to detail. Celebrity sails in Alaska,
Australia/New Zealand, California, Canada/New England, the Caribbean,
Europe, Galapagos Islands, Hawaii, the Pacific Coast, Panama Canal and
South America. The line also offers unique land-tour vacations in
Alaska, Canada, Europe and Australia through its cruisetour affiliate.
Noted for "The Top Cruise Ships in the World," as voted by the readers
of Conde' Nast Traveler (February 2008 readers' poll), Celebrity's
current fleet will be joined by Celebrity Solstice in 2008, Celebrity
Equinox in 2009, Celebrity Eclipse in 2010, and a fourth
Solstice-class ship in 2011. For more information, call your travel
agent.

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TOPIC: St Thomas/St Maarten????
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/10bd32ee8edff020?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 1:47 pm
From: Spike

My wife and I and another couple are going to be in St Thomas and St Maarten
next month via the Carribean Princess. Does anyone here wish to share any
interesting ideas for things to do in these two ports of call? We're not
interested in any of the shore excursions.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA
Spike

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 5:18 pm
From: Rosalie B.

Spike <Spike@Spike.com> wrote:

>My wife and I and another couple are going to be in St Thomas and St Maarten
>next month via the Carribean Princess. Does anyone here wish to share any
>interesting ideas for things to do in these two ports of call? We're not
>interested in any of the shore excursions.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If you don't like any of the shore excursions, then there's not much I
can suggest. We rented a car in St. Maartin. And in St. Thomas,
there's always shopping.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 8:09 pm
From: "John Sisker"

Spike,

Instead of simply trying describe shore excursions, presented here are some
photo albums of things we actually did while in both St. Thomas and St.
Maarten. Since St. John is so close to St. Thomas, and available as a shore
excursion, we have included that as well. The second album of St. Maarten is
also included here, and even though taken way back when with a lesser
quality camera, does present some different views.

We hope you enjoy our albums, after all, a picture is worth a thousand
words.

St. Maarten:
http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=9AZsmzVo3bqIOg&emid=sharshar&linkid=link3

St. Thomas / St. John / St. Maarten:
http://www2.snapfish.com/share/p=86271204944902977/l=359160063/g=28292148/otsc=SYE/otsi=SALB

Happy sailing...
John Sisker - SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY (sm)
(714) 536-3850 or toll-free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency ID: 714.536.3850)
www.shiptoshorecruise.com

"Spike" <Spike@Spike.com> wrote in message
news:fqsd6b0can@drn.newsguy.com...
> My wife and I and another couple are going to be in St Thomas and St
> Maarten
> next month via the Carribean Princess. Does anyone here wish to share any
> interesting ideas for things to do in these two ports of call? We're not
> interested in any of the shore excursions.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA
> Spike
>

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 8:36 pm
From: sue mullen

Spike wrote:
> My wife and I and another couple are going to be in St Thomas and St Maarten
> next month via the Carribean Princess. Does anyone here wish to share any
> interesting ideas for things to do in these two ports of call? We're not
> interested in any of the shore excursions.

What type of things would you be interested in? Beaches, shopping,
scenic views etc.

sue

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TOPIC: Favorite Beaches... Aruba and Curacao???
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/19abb8b44cd62f5f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 2:04 pm
From: "Tom K"

What's everyone's favorite beaches in Aruba and Curacao?

Any suggestions? Going there Easter Break.

We've never been to Curacao before, and last year in Aruba we spent most of
the time on an island tour. So this time we want beaches.

--Tom

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 2:53 pm
From: sue mullen

Tom K wrote:
> What's everyone's favorite beaches in Aruba and Curacao?
>
> Any suggestions? Going there Easter Break.
>
> We've never been to Curacao before, and last year in Aruba we spent most of
> the time on an island tour. So this time we want beaches.

Tom, I can't help with beaches, but when you are in Curacao go and have
a drink or a snack at one of the outdoor cafes right along the water,
right by the floating bride. It is really cool sitting and watching the
ships(not cruise ships) go by so close to you. I have some pictures on
our webshots site, if you don't have it email me and I will send you the
link.

sue - heading out to dinner with good friends!!

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TOPIC: Official Alaska "Port Schedule"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/63db56a515c1afef?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 2:41 pm
From: "Out2Sea"

"sengsational" <DRS.Usenet@sengsational.com> wrote in message
news:1f839b01-31de-4fa9-8e0d-041148d7f478@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>A few years ago I went on an Alaska cruise and in my fumblings found
> an official government schedule of when certain ships would be in
> certain places. It was specific to the hour (not that I really needed
> that, but to distinguish it from some secondary source). It had the
> "usual suspect" ports, plus even had a schedule for who was going to
> be in Glacier Bay at what times. Being the official way for cruise
> ship companies to schedule their visits, it, of course, had all cruise
> lines represented. So can someone help me find this resource again?
>
> --Dale--

http://www.claalaska.com/pdf/2008/ALL_08.pdf

Out2Sea

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TOPIC: Travel: Airfares, hotels, vacations, cruises, car rentals and more ...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/0bba3184e67784bf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 3:10 pm
From: JACK RABBIT

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TOPIC: Question on Coral Cay, Roatan
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/311c55d6534a2026?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 3:54 pm
From: kbutterly

Peg,

Thanks so much for the detailed reply! Looks like we're going to
Coral Cay!

Have a great weekend,
Kathryn

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TOPIC: MV Dresden
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/73a287214d9246b7?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 5:15 pm
From: Paul Krause

Hi,

My sisters just booked a river cruise with Peter Dielmann Cruises on th
MV Dresden.

Anyone have any experiences or comments on this line or this ship.
Cruise Critic has reviews on some of the Deilmann vessels but not on the
Dresden

Looks like a really nice cruise.

any info is appreciated.
Paul

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TOPIC:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/63d99faecdf24c7e?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 8:04 pm
From: Cal Ford

As George said, take it with a grain of salt cause that is what it is worth.

A few years ago we did a nice 12 day Med cruise and I had a guy in my group that
was telling everybody that they got the regular deal on the Cruise but his wife
booked him in First Class on BA for about $240.00 and he knew this for a fact
because he had seen the tickets.

When people would then ask me how come he got such a good deal I had to explain
that his wife used Frequent Flier miles for the tickets and what he saw on the
tickets was the Tax which had to be paid irregardless.

So unless you know the real story just accept it as a story and move on.

Cal Ford
Lido Deck Cruises

In article <fqrma802fr9@enews4.newsguy.com>, George Leppla says...
>
>
>"Jack Hamilton" <jfh@acm.org> wrote in message
>news:22j1t31cqb2l3orebs75orfnhfnpvlv0dr@4ax.com...
>> "George Leppla" <george@cruisemaster.com> wrote:
>>
>>>What I found incredible about the story is the Joystar exec who said
>>> >>""The
>>>passengers should take some responsibility in knowing that something
>>>didn't
>>>make sense from the beginning," she said.<<
>>
>> Like cruise prices make sense.
>>
>> On the PoH, I talked to someone who had gotten an inside cabin at
>> $199/pp. The lowest I ever saw advertised was around $899/pp.
>
>Considering it was NCL, some people are telling me that even at $199, it was
>overpriced. <vbg>
>
>Old travel agent saying... "The person with the lowest fare is the last
>participant in the conversation."
>
>FWIW - non-commissionable fares, taxes and the new fuel surcharge run about
>$250 per person for a 7 night cruise. Some of those are included in the
>fare, so I would take that $199 figure with a grain of salt. Not saying it
>didn't happen... because with NCL... anything is possible. <vbg>
>
>

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TOPIC: MAKE MONEY WORKING AT HOME.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 10:20 pm
From: suresh

MAKE MONEY WORKING AT HOME.

No gimmicks, no pie in the sky, no bull.
Proven, 20-year track record:

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TOPIC: Smoking on cruise ships
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/browse_thread/thread/184ba3f71f7dabae?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 10:22 pm
From: "Ray Kloc"

Boomer ,

After reading your post , I can see that there probably is no reasoning
with you , but I'll try this once .

- > #1 Sure I can choose a non smoking cruise line so you wouldn't hear my
> complaints but there aren't that many that serve my needs. (or price range

Well , it's unfortunate that you can't find a cruise that you like that
doesn't allow smoking . But you are making your problem everyone else's .
It's pretty self centered to expect the world to change just to suit your
needs or price range. If a ship allows smoking , smokers will smoke , and
it's not their problem if you don't like it . They probably took that same
cruise BECAUSE they could smoke , and they have every right to. If you don't
like it , too bad , you knew what you were getting into when you booked it.

> #2 The way you phrase it the non smokers should just leave things the way
> they are since it serves your smoking habits. If that were the case, we'd
> be back to allowing smoking in the dr's & show lounges once again.

No... if you don't like the way things are , complain to the cruise lines ,
or boycott those that allow smoking , or do something positive to change the
situation . But as long as a cruise line allows smoking , you have no
complaint with the people who smoke, unless they are smoking in area's that
are supposed to be smoke free. Specifically , I am referring to smoking on
balconies , as that was the topic when I began posting on this thread. And ,
by the way , the way things are doesn't serve a smokers smoking habits .
Freedom to smoke anywhere , anytime would serve the smokers. Complete non
smoking would serve the non smokers . The way things are is a compromise of
the two extremes . Apparently , as I haven't read any complaints from
smokers about not being able to smoke anywhere they wanted , smokers are
far more reasonable and willing to compromise than you are , or , in other
words , much less self centered .

> #3 "I think that anyone who is as passionate as some of you seem to be
> about
> second hand smoke - the smell , the health risks , and anything else
> that's
> offensive to them - can learn a lot from those that smoke ! "
> That's a good one- I can learn a lot from someone who is to foolish to see
> the health warnings about smoking and then have the nerve to subject us
> non smokers to your addictive smoke

This one is really the kicker , and it says a lot about you . While I think
most people will agree smoking is a pretty foolish thing to do , smokers
choose to do it because they want to . Foolish or not , they apparently are
willing to take whatever risk may be involved because they enjoy smoking.
And , because they enjoy smoking , most don't cruise on ships that don't
allow them to smoke.

You , on the other hand , don't enjoy smoking and aren't willing to take
whatever risks are involved with it . Thats not foolish at all ..in fact
it's smart.. But then you go and willingly put yourself in a smoking
situation, one you don't like and feel is a health risk ! That is incredibly
stupid . Nobody is subjecting you to anything , you are subjecting yourself
to it , and then blaming others for doing it to you.

Yes, you can learn a lot a lot from the smokers , or anyone else that has
the least little bit of common sense. Try putting yourself in situations
you like rather than ones you don't like . If smoke bothers you , don't go
on cruises that people will be smoking on . You make your own choices , and
if you keep making the same choice over and over and it's a bad one , you
have nobody but yourself to blame , and I sure don't feel sorry for you,
although I imagine your life might be very frustrating.

The smokers put themselves in a situation that they want to be in , and most
likely enjoy their cruise much more than you do, who puts yourself in a
situation you DON'T like or want to be in . I think you can learn a lot from
them.

"Boomer" <nospam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:hLmdnaO9LIC33kzanZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com...
> #1 Sure I can choose a non smoking cruise line so you wouldn't hear my
> complaints but there aren't that many that serve my needs. (or price
> range)
>
> #2 The way you phrase it the non smokers should just leave things the way
> they are since it serves your smoking habits. If that were the case, we'd
> be back to allowing smoking in the dr's & show lounges once again.
>
> #3 "I think that anyone who is as passionate as some of you seem to be
> about
> second hand smoke - the smell , the health risks , and anything else
> that's
> offensive to them - can learn a lot from those that smoke ! "
> That's a good one- I can learn a lot from someone who is to foolish to see
> the health warnings about smoking and then have the nerve to subject us
> non smokers to your addictive smoke.
>
> It's logic like yours that has led to the backlash of the non smoking
> public & will continue to escalate even more so in the future. (hopefully
> aboard cruise ships)
>
> Keep filling in the comment cards.
>

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 11:32 pm
From: Chrissy Cruiser

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:32:50 -0800 (PST), alnmel wrote:

> When smokers come to my home I
> put out an ashtray, and I'm happy to say that in all cases people have
> used excellent judgement as to when it's appropriate to go outside
> (children or people with respiratory illnesses around), or when they
> smoke inside.
>
> All in all I find smokers to be extremely considerate these days, both
> on and off ships.

You never clued in, did you? This smoking inside, you do realize that it is
a killer to non-smokers? And to you?

Have you no nose for the stench? Obviously not or is it that you still "get
off" on the nicotine fix you get when smokers choose to smoke in your home.
Why are kids exempt but you and other adults are not?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 11:41 pm
From: Chrissy Cruiser

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 01:22:14 -0500, Ray Kloc wrote:

> It's pretty self centered to expect the world to change just to suit your
> needs or price range. If a ship allows smoking , smokers will smoke , and
> it's not their problem if you don't like it . They probably took that same
> cruise BECAUSE they could smoke , and they have every right to. If you don't
> like it , too bad , you knew what you were getting into when you booked it.

Fully agree, if you cruise you will have to put up with the Killer Smokers.
From that point on. you are off the charts. Yes, let the killers have their
self-indulgences because they have the right to kill. It's the cruise lie
and non smokers faults, no way the killers can have any fault, they are
well within their tights to kill all of us.

ExcuseFuckingMe.

> No... if you don't like the way things are , complain to the cruise lines ,
> or boycott those that allow smoking , or do something positive to change the
> situation . But as long as a cruise line allows smoking , you have no
> complaint with the people who smoke, unless they are smoking in area's that
> are supposed to be smoke free.

Bullshit. I have every right to complain and if I don't, will the policies
ever change?

> Specifically , I am referring to smoking on
> balconies , as that was the topic when I began posting on this thread.

Smoking on cruise ships...

> And ,
> by the way , the way things are doesn't serve a smokers smoking habits .
> Freedom to smoke anywhere , anytime would serve the smokers. Complete non
> smoking would serve the non smokers . The way things are is a compromise of
> the two extremes .

LOL

"Killers allowed rights", EXTRA EXTRA !!!

> Apparently , as I haven't read any complaints from
> smokers about not being able to smoke anywhere they wanted , smokers are
> far more reasonable and willing to compromise than you are , or , in other
> words , much less self centered .

"As I lay there under my oxygen tent, gasping for my last, blue breath, I
say to myself "If I had only been less self-centered"..

You Killers are all alike, you simply will not come to the realization that
you are responsible for millions of deaths every year.

You are Killers. Period. And scum.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 7 2008 11:26 pm
From: "John Sisker"

When on a cruise... Halifax (Nova Scotia), Canada

Complied and presented by...
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NOTE: Because of some major computer problems, this "When on a cruise:"
series had to be put on hold until now. Likewise, my e-mail notification
list had to be recreated as well. Therefore, any time delays and/or category
assignments was chosen by events and/or my personal choice of destinations
that I have actually visited - not by any other outside influence.

TABLE OF CONTENTS:

* HISTORY...
* HALIFAX HARBOR...
* CRUISES...
* GEOGRAPHY...
* DEMOGRAPHICS...
* ECONOMY...
* THE HALIFAX REGIONAL MUNICIPALITY...
* THE MARITIME MUSEUM OF THE ATLANTIC...
* THE TITANIC...
* THE HALIFAX EXPLOSION...
* CITY CENTER...
* TRANSPORTATION...
* MAJOR PARKS...
* MEDIA...
* CLIMATE...
* SCHOOLS...
* SPORTS...
* SHORE EXCURSIONS...
* PHOTO ALBUMS...

HISTORY...

In its early history, the town of Halifax was established by the British to
counter-balance the French presence in both Quebec and Acadia. Yet, this
early history also showed Halifax as the primary North Atlantic base for the
Royal Navy. However, the city had difficulty sustaining practical economic
success in its early history as the regional center and colonial capital.
After the official creation of the Halifax Regional Municipal (HRM) in 1996,
the term "Mainland Halifax" became the official description of the area. The
harbor, runs in a northwest - southeast direction. Lawlor's Island and
Devils Island, while outside the defined harbor limits, is frequently
included in descriptions of Halifax Harbor and the surrounding area.

Halifax is a very special port for me personally, not just because of its
history, location and Canadian influence, but because of the tie-in to the
Titanic. I've always had a fascination for the Titanic and its connections,
so I told my wife Deborah, that some type of shore excursion connected to
the Titanic while in Halifax was a must. I'll be talking more on that
connection and the involvement Halifax played in the history of the Titanic
a bit later.

As already pointed out, Halifax is in Nova Scotia County, a Province of Nova
Scotia Regional Municipality. It was incorporated on April 17, 1879 and
dissolved into the Halifax Regional Municipality (HRM) on April 1, 1996.

Additional details include...
* Present Governing Council - Halifax Regional Council Area
* Total 5,495.54 km (2,121.8 sq mi)
* Population: 372,679
* Density 65.4 km (169.4 sq mi)
* Time Zone AST (UTC-4)
* Area Code: 902
* Median Earnings $46,941

Sometimes known as just Halifax, Metro Halifax is the most populous urban
area in Atlantic Canada and home to Nova Scotia's capital district. The
Halifax Urban Area is unusual in that the entire urban, suburban and rural
commuter-shed - as well as a substantial unrelated rural area - are all a
part of a single-tier municipal corporation called the Halifax Regional
Municipality (HRM), a regional municipality that governs the entire country,
coverings a geographic area larger than the province of Prince Edward
Island. The Halifax Urban Area benefits from a process of increased rural
depopulation and corresponding urban growth in Atlantic Canada.

The harbor, marked by the oldest operating lighthouse in North America, is
at the entrance on Smabro Island, and is also marked by an extensive network
of buoys and other lighthouses. Currently run by the Halifax Port Authority
(HPA), which was previously run by the National Harbor Board, is now a
federally-appointed agency and administers and operates various port
properties on the harbor.

HALIFAX HARBOR...

For a great view of the harbor and a fun, relaxing way to reach Dartmouth,
take the Halifax-Dartmouth Ferry. The Metro Transit ferry operates
throughout the day between the downtown terminal near Historic Properties
and Dartmouth's Ferry Terminal Park. A rush-hours-only ferry also runs
between the downtown terminal and Woodside, near Eastern Passage.

Looking out toward the harbor entrance as you cross, the nearest island is
George's Island, with the small lighthouse on the side. It played a key role
in the harbor's defense system for almost 200 years. Although not open to
the public, it has been named a National Historic Site, and the federal
heritage department is currently restoring its fortifications.

Farther out in the harbor, a ferry from Eastern Passage or charter boats
from Cable Wharf can reach McNab's Island. McNab's was another important
part of the harbor defense system, but also home to several generations of
independent settlers. Today a network of trails leads past the island's
lighthouse, ruined fortress and batteries, sand beaches and abandoned
homesteads.

Lawlor's Island, as mentioned earlier, lies close to the mainland, creating
the eastern entrance to the harbor. Never the site of military construction,
it is primarily undeveloped woodland, the protected home of deer and osprey.

CRUISES...

Twenty-one (21) million dollars is contributed to the local economy because
of the cruise season. This consists of 176,000 cruise passengers and 92
ships calling on Halifax from April to October. Likewise, these is a major
impact on the Nova Scotia economy just because of cruises.

Some cruise lines calling on Halifax:
(http://www.shiptoshorecruise.com/Inventory.htm)

* Carnival Cruise Line
* Celebrity Cruises
* Crystal Cruises
* Cunard
* Holland American Line
* Norwegian Cruise Line
* Royal Caribbean International

GEOGRAPHY...

The coastline is heavily indented, accounting for its length of
approximately 400 kilometers (250 mi), with the northern boundary usually
being between 50-60 kilometers (30-37 mi) inland. The coast is mostly rock
with small isolated sand beaches in sheltered bays. The largest bays include
St. Margarets Bay, Halifax Harbour/Bedford Basin, Cole Harbour, Musquodoboit
Harbour, Jeddore Harbour, Ship Harbour, Sheet Harbour, and Ecum Secum
Harbour.

The municipality's topography spans from lush farmland in the Musquodoboit
Valley to rocky and heavily forested rolling hills.

DEMOGRAPHICS...

The Halifax Regional Municipality is comprised of 372,679 residents (2006
census). Approximately 18% of the population is under the age of 14, while
11% are 65 and older.

ECONOMY...

The urban area of Halifax Regional Municipality is a major economic centre
in eastern Canada with a large concentration of government services and
private sector companies. Halifax serves as the business, banking,
government and cultural centre for the Maritime region. Major employers and
economic generators include the Department of National Defence, as well as
the Port of Halifax. The municipality has a growing concentration of
manufacturing industries and is becoming a major multi-modal transportation
hub through growth at the port, the Halifax Stanfield International Airport,
and improving rail and highway connections. A real estate boom in recent
years has led to numerous new property developments, including the
gentrification of some former working-class areas.

Agriculture, fishing, mining, forestry and natural gas ext raction are major
resource industries found in the rural areas of HRM. HRM's largest
agricultural district is in the Musquodoboit Valley; the total number of
farms in HRM is 150, of which 110 are family-owned. Fishing harbours
are located along all coastal areas with some having an independent harbour
authority, and others being managed as small craft harbours under the
federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans.

Other resource industries in HRM include the natural gas fields off the
coast of Sable Island, as well as clay, shale, gold, limestone, and gypsum
extraction in rural areas of the mainland portion of the municipality.

THE HALIFAX REGIONAL MUNICIPALITY...

Halifax Regional Municipality is the capital of the province of Nova Scotia,
Canada, making it the seat of the provincial Crown. The municipality is
commonly called HRM or informally, Halifax

The first permanent European settlement in the area was the establishment of
the Town of Halifax in 1749 when the colonial capital was transferred from
Annapolis Royal; other towns and villages were established throughout
adjacent areas of what would become Halifax County in the decades that
followed. In 1996 the provincial government amalgamated all municipal
governments within Halifax County to create HRM, a regional municipality
comprising approximately 200 individual neighborhoods and communities
for civic addressing grouped into 18 planning areas for zoning purposes.

HRM's urban area is a major economic centre in eastern Canada with a large
concentration of government services and private sector companies. Major
employers and economic generators include the Department of National
Defense, various levels of government, and the Port of Halifax. Agriculture,
fishing, mining, forestry and natural gas extraction are major resource
industries found in the rural areas of HRM.

THE MARITIME MUSEUM OF THE ATLANTIC...

The Maritime Museum of the Atlantic, located at 1675 Lower Water St. and on
the grounds of the Citadel National Historic Park, is the perfect place for
the 'seaworthy' enthusiast to find out about everything involving Nova
Scotia maritime history from 1850 to present.

You'll love learning about The Royal Canadian Navy and the Canadian merchant
marine. You'll find exhibits that include the small boats once used around
the coast. One of the most popular collections features information about
local shipwrecks as well as the 1917 Halifax Explosion.

The museum's largest artifact is the 1913 hydrographic vessel CSS Acadia,
the ship that spent its long life charting the coasts of Labrador and the
Artic. The museum has a permanent exhibit about the Titanic disaster, as
many of the victims were buried in Halifax. The Titanic display includes 20+
artifacts and many photographs. The only surviving deck chair is housed at
the Maritime Museum.

THE TITANIC...

The maiden voyage of the Titanic really ends in Halifax, not so much at the
bottom of the sea; with the most lasting legacy from the sinking ending
here. While the world was indeed stunned in 1912 by the loss of the ocean
line Titanic on her maiden voyage, Halifax (Nova Scotia), located on the
eastern coast of Canada, has one of the most moving and intimate connections
with the disaster. Playing a key roll during the tragedy, Halifax was
involved in the aftermath and became the final resting place for many of her
victims.

Involved in the grim task of recovering victims, three Halifax ships were
involved. Therefore, many of the victims were laid to rest in three of the
City's cemeteries. Rolls of black granite headstones, each inscribed with
the same date, April 15, 1912, are a stark reminder of the disaster.

At the Maritime Museum of the Atlantic in Halifax, are touching reminders of
the ship's lost luxury, her violent end, and a special role that the Halifax
port played as the enormity of the disaster unfolded. There are many
artifacts pulled from the water within weeks of the sinking by ships from
Halifax, including wooden artifacts collected at the scene of the disaster,
including one of the only Titanic deck chair known to exist.

Many of these artifacts, including the Titanic section at the local
cemetery, can be scene in my photo albums of Halifax and the surrounding
area.

THE HALIFAX EXPLOSION...

Fully loaded with high wartime explosives, on Thursday, December 6, 1917 at
8:40 in the morning, the French cargo ship exploded , destroying the City of
Halifax. The ship accidently ran into a Norwegian ship in the narrow section
of Halifax Harbor. Around 2,000 people, mostly Canadians, were killed from
debris, fires, and/or collapsed buildings. It is estimated that 9,000 people
were injured.

Not until the first atomic-bomb test explosion in 1945, this was the largest
man-made explosion anywhere. It is still considered one of the world's
largest man-made non-nuclear explosions to date.

* Mont-Blanc: (a French cargo ship) chartered by the French government to
carry acumination.

* Norwegian Ship IMO: (chartered the Commission for Relief in Belgium to
carry
relief supplies).

Equivalent to approximately 3 kilotons of TNT, the Mont-Blanc exploited with
more force than any man-made explosion before it. The explosion damaged
building and shattered windows as far away as Sackvill and Windsor Junction,
about 16 Kilometers (10 miles) away. The following day, a blizzard dropped
40 centimeters (16 inches) of snow. Therefore, those who remained trapped in
the rubble, the injured, or those who have yet to be found or attended to,
were often left in the bitter cold. This added to the great loss.

The explosion caused roughly $35 million Canadian dollars, according to
estimated, which was in 1917 dollars. With adjustments for inflation, this
is around $500 million in 2008 dollars.

CITY CENTER...

The urban area of Halifax Regional Municipality is a major cultural centre
within the Atlantic provinces. The municipality's urban core also benefits
from a large population of post-secondary students who strongly influence
the local cultural scene. HRM has a number of art galleries, theatres and
museums, as well as most of the region's national-quality sports and
entertainment facilities. The municipality is home to many performance
venues, namely the Rebecca Cohn Auditorium, the Neptune Theatre, and The
Music Room. HRM also is the home to many of the regions major cultural
attractions, such as Symphony Nova Scotia, the Art Gallery of Nova Scotia,
and the Neptune Theatre.

The region is noted for the strength of its music scene and nightlife,
especially in the central urban core.

HRM plays host to a wide variety of festivals that take place throughout the
year, including: The Atlantic Film Festival, The Royal Nova Scotia
International Tattoo, The Halifax Busker Festival, Greekfest, Gay Pride
week, The Atlantic Jazz Festival, The Multicultural Festival, periodic Tall
Ship events, and Shakespeare by the Sea, to name a few. Many of these
celebrations have become world renowned over the past several years.
HRM has also become a significant film-production centre, with many American
and Canadian filmmakers using the streetscapes, often to stand in for other
cities that are more expensive to work in. The Canadian Broadcasting
Corporation has its Atlantic Canada production centres (radio and
television) based in Halifax, and quite a number of radio and television
programs are made in the region for national broadcast.

HRM is considered by many to be the cultural centre of the Maritimes. The
municipality has been able to maintain many of its maritime and military
traditions, while opening itself to a growing multicultural population.

TRANSPORTATION...

The Halifax Regional Municipality is served by all modes of transportation.
Halifax Harbour is a major Canadian port used by numerous shipping lines, as
well as the navy and coast guard and hosts a public ferry service connecting
the urban core. Sheet Harbour is the other major port in the municipality
and serves industrial shippers on the Eastern Shore.

The Halifax Port Authority's various shipping terminals constitute the
eastern terminus of Canadian National Railway's transcontinental network.
VIA Rail Canada provides overnight passenger rail service six days a week to
Montreal with its train the Ocean.

Halifax Stanfield International Airport serves HRM and most of the province,
providing scheduled flights to domestic and international destinations. CFB
Shearwater, an air force base, is located in the urban core on the eastern
side of Halifax Harbour but is presently being decommissioned for fixed-wing
aircraft.

The municipality's urban core is linked by the Angus L. Macdonald and A.
Murray MacKay suspension bridges, as well as a network of 100-series
highways which function as expressways. The Armdale traffic circle is a
notorious choke point for vehicle movement in the western part of the urban
core, especially at rush hour.

The urban core of HRM is served by Metro Transit, which operates standard
bus routes, bus-rapid transit routes, as well as the pedestrian-only harbour
ferries. Established in 1752 , the municipality's ferry service is the
oldest continuously running salt water ferry service in North America.

MAJOR PARKS...

* Point Pleasant Park, a forested seaside park on peninsular Halifax.
* Dartmouth Commons
* Halifax Citadel National Historic Site
* Halifax Commons
* Point Pleasant Park
* Public Gardens
* Shubie Park
* Sir Sandford Fleming Park
* York Redoubt National Historic Site
* Long Lake Provincial Park

MEDIA...

HRM is the Maritimes' centre for broadcast and print media. CBC, CTV and
Global Television all have regional television hubs in the municipality. CBC
Radio has a major regional studio and there are also regional hubs for
Rogers Radio and various private broadcast franchises, as well as a regional
bureau for The Canadian Press/Broadcast News.

HRM's print media is centered on its single daily newspaper, the broadsheet
The Chronicle-Herald as well as two free newspapers, the daily
commuter-oriented edition of Metro and the free alternative arts weekly The
Coast. Frank Magazine provides HRM with a weekly satirical and gossip
magazine.

From 1974-2008, HRM had a second daily newspaper, the tabloid The Daily News
which still publishes several neighborhood weekly papers such as The
Bedford-Sackville Weekly News, The Halifax West-Clayton Park Weekly News and
the Dartmouth-Cole Harbour Weekly News. Theses weekly papers compete with
The Chronicle-Herald's weekly Community Heralds HRM West, HRM East, and HRM
North.

CLIMATE...

HRM's climate is heavily influenced by its location on Nova Scotia's
Atlantic coast. The weather is usually milder or cooler than that of central
Canada, with the temperature remaining (with occasional notable exceptions)
between about -15°C and 35°C (5°F to 95°F) inland but the coast can be
milder in the winter and cooler in the summer with the maritime influence.

SCHOOLS...

The Halifax Regional Municipality has a well-developed network of public and
private schools, providing instruction from primary to grade 12; one hundred
and fifty public schools are administered by the Halifax Regional School
Board, as well as three public schools administered by the Conseil Scolaire
Acadien Provincial, whereas the fourteen private schools are operated
independently.

The municipality is also home to the following post-secondary educational
institutions: Dalhousie University, Saint Mary's University, Mount Saint
Vincent University, the Halifax campus of Université Sainte-Anne, University
of King's College, Atlantic School of Theology, NSCAD University, and the
Nova Scotia Community College. The presence of so many university and
college students contributes to a vibrant youth culture in the region, as
well as making it a major centre for university education in eastern Canada.

SPORTS...

The Halifax Regional Municipality is home to a number of outdoor
recreational opportunities, including numerous ocean and lake beaches, as
well as rural and urban parks. The municipality has a host of organized
community intramural sports, as well as varsity and intramural sports
offered by public schools and post-secondary institutions and has extensive
facilities.

The region is home to several professional and semi-professional sport
franchises, such as the Halifax Mooseheads of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey
League, as well as a newly-announced Halifax Rainmen of the American
Basketball Association.

The region has also hosted several major sporting events, including the 2003
World Junior Hockey Championship, 2003 Nokia Brier, the 2004 Women's World
Ice Hockey Championships, and the 2007 World Indoor Lacrosse Championship.
From 1984 to 2007, the region had been home to the CIS Men's Basketball
Championship, however the tournament will be moved to Ottawa, Ontario
starting in 2008.

Halifax was selected as Canada's bid for the 2014 Commonwealth Games in 2006
but withdrew from the international competition in advance of the November
9, 2007 selection date on March 8.

The municipality was selected as the host community for the 2011 Canada
Winter Games in February 2007.

SHORE EXCURSIONS...

As a reference, I have included some of the optional shore excursions for
Halifax, including Holland American Line (our cruise), instead of just
trying to list everything that is available. This way, nothing will ever
become outdated, as the cruise lines themselves modify their own online
information. One can naturally sign up for the cruise line organized tours,
and/or simply use this information to see what's suggested, then do things
on your own. After all, it's your cruise.

* Carnival Cruise Line
(http://www.carnival.com/ShoreExcursionsSearchResults.aspx?region=NN&portcode=YHZ&portname=Halifax%2c+NS%2c+Canada)

* Celebrity Cruises
(http://www.celebritycruises.com/search/processKeywordSearch.do?ip_text=Halifax&ip_server=prdiphrase-structcelasr-new222.dmz.rccl.com%3A2000&securityClasses=asr&x=21&y=7)

* Crystal Cruises http://www.crystalcruises.com/content.aspx?ID=10005#shorex

* Cunard
(http://www.cunard.com/Destinations/PortDetails.asp?LeftNav=Destinations&sub=&Region=10&portid=943#ShoreExcursions)

* Holland American Line
(http://www.hollandamerica.com/cruise-destinations/ShoreExcursions!viewExcursions.action?destCode=N&portCode=YHZ)

* Norwegian Cruise Line
(http://www.ncl.com/nclweb/shorex.html?destinationCode=CANADA%2FNEW+ENGL&previousValue=ALL&portCode=HAL&startingRowNumber=0&selectedDateRange=&priceProgramCode=BESTFARE&packageId=&shipCode=&dispatch=shorexSearch&dispatch=nonItinerarySearch)

* Royal Caribbean International
(http://www.royalcaribbean.com/findacruise/ports/group/home.do;jsessionid=0000cKuG9Yb37s4cpzWNBgRKOmi:12hbiodf7?dest=ATLCO&portCode=YHZ)

PHOTO ALBUMS...
(pictures taken by John & Deborah Sisker)

* Halifax
(http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=9AZsmzVo3bqIMo&emid=sharshar&linkid=link3)

* New England/Canada Cruise Aboard Holland American Line Maasdam
(http://familyalbums.funtigo.com/?b=183633&p=1.0&n=1&cr=1)

Reference, background and/or source materials:

* Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Regional_Municipality)
* Halifax Regional Municipality (http://www.halifax.ca/)
* Halifax Information (http://www.halifaxinfo.com)
* Port of Halifax (http://www.portofhalifax.ca)
* Maritime Museum of the Atlantic (http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mma/index.html)
* Halifax/Titanic (http://titanic.gov.ns.ca/)
* Halifax International Airport Authority (http://www.hiaa.c/)
* Nova Scotia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_Scotia)

For reference, and with the exception of specific Wikipedia requirements,
the above was source material as the basic for information for this series,
and yet, is still in connection with the "fair use" exemption to copyright
law, which was created to allow things such as commentary, parody, news
reporting, research and education about copyrighted works without the
permission of the author. Furthermore, the license Wikipedia uses grants
free access to their content in the same sense as free software is licensed
freely.

Happy sailing...
John Sisker - SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY (sm)
(714) 536-3850 or toll-free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency ID: 714.536.3850)
www.shiptoshorecruise.com

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Pudong International Airport faces the East China Sea. It is about 30
kilometers from downtown Shanghai, and occupies an area of about 32
square kilometers. The whole project took the two years to complete.
The construction area of the main building of Pudong International
Airport is about 278,000 square meters. What is truly spectacular
about this building is that its shape is that of an extremely big mew
stretching its wings to soar above the sea. Pudong International
Airport can provide landing service for 36 aircrafts simultaneously.
In addition, even the largest commercial aircraft in the world can be
handled by this immense airport.

Pudong International Airport is the only airport in the world that
allows visitors to enter the conning tower. The openness and sublime
mightiness have made this international airport one of the top scenic
attractions of Shanghai. Stepping onto the observation deck on the
sixth floor of the conning tower, you get a panoramic view of the
arrivals and departures building, the runway and a selection of planes
on parking apron. Meanwhile you have the chance to witness airliners'
take-off and land with engines roaring. You rarely see this
spectacular scene at any other airport. This is one of the finest
airport of the world.

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